Assuming they had zero additional intelligence, they knew that Japan had expressed interest in developing biological weapons prior to the war and that they had used chemical weapons in China.

It would be hard to say that it didn’t play any factor in dropping the atomic bombs given the sort of arms race happening during the war. We know that the fear of retaliation via WMDs was a deterrent for Japan using biological weapons on the west coast.

I'm just pointing out how I don't think citizens of North America would think the same way if the same atrocity had been put onto their ancestors.

That's all.

Ah ok fair enough then

My only question is ..why the second one

Imagine caring so much about some random ktt posters opinions that you have to put a disclaimer in op

There was no unregrettable outcome for both sides tbh

Imo now that i’ve read this , a nuke would have definitely been dropped during the cold war. or i should say a nuke is what sparked a cold war from even existing in our timeline. sounds crazy but

"Conditional surrender" is just another way to say "please no consequences even though we attacked you first"

Context matters, if we surprised attack Japan first it'd be hard to argue against. Japan killed innocent people at pearl harbor so why should the US not return the favor

why are they arguing this is beyond me

Years and generations of families getting cancer and are born with birth defects but people itt are still justifying this I'm crying

also its so funny that only users with drake avis and known drake stans are defending this itt
that certified neoliberal boy meme was right

People wanna play devil’s advocates so bad with that “ground warfare would’ve been even worse!” s*** lmao

We lost 2,403 people at Pearl Harbor

They lost 200,000+ people and a generation of survivors were left with a higher risk of cancer and birth defects

That's not really "returning the favor"

Not retaliating for Pearl Harbor

Ok so let's say no bombs

What should the US do? The ground invasion argument is backed up by the math, on paper more people die so that's even more tragic

I know but when we look at the full picture then it's still the Emperor's and military leaders fault for attacking Pearl Harbor knowing it was a bad idea

F*** should I know 😂 i don’t know enough about it, I just know that the US military doesn’t pick the best solutions to problems 🤷‍♂️

nothing, the soviets would have handled it

The condition was more or less let the emperor be, which happened anyway. Japan got a great conditions upon surrendering.
You're just trying to justify the unjustifiable

Dafuq is wrong with you

Ground invasion wouldn't have been necessary, Japan weren't weren't willing to fight a way on two fronts, with the Russian prepping to declare war on Japan.

Crazy how happy people are with pretending Japan were five with prolonging the way with the Soviets ready to declare war.
Japan knew the war was lost, and def didn't want the Soviets to declare war so they'd have to answer to them as well when they were forced into submission.

Not how justice works, that's how you get more sneak attacks. Just like the kid that never stands up to a bully the cycle will never end. Retaliation is the only way to show you're not to be messed with.

Lmfao are you f***ing dumb