i do find donda significant though. it did feel like kanye was accepted publicly again and then he threw it all away
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the king of the space for the last 15 yrs to complete underdog arc is something for the books
gotta live under a rock to not at least skim thru the album when it finally comes out
You gotta hate rap if your answer is ''WLR''
it arguably is the most important cus everyone copied it but its a terrible album
GNX has a better claim than Donda
WLR has a claim although given how much it got copied by trash rappers it almost sounds a little old now
It's emblematic of where rap has been in the 2020s, the underground/non-mainstream acts have really been holding down/hard-carrying the genre & the lack of new superstars mean that no massive album has really rocked the entire game like what has happened in past decades
Even from a commercial success standpoint, My Turn by Lil Baby would be a laughable answer to this, the mainstream has been struggling
GNX has a better claim than Donda
WLR has a claim although given how much it got copied by trash rappers it almost sounds a little old now
It's emblematic of where rap has been in the 2020s, the underground/non-mainstream acts have really been holding down/hard-carrying the genre & the lack of new superstars mean that no massive album has really rocked the entire game like what has happened in past decades
Even from a commercial success standpoint, My Turn by Lil Baby would be a laughable answer to this, the mainstream has been struggling
not mad at that when it comes to GNX
WLR a great claim
and baby's moment was so special
i hate baby slander lmaooo
the nigga said it's bigger than black and white!!!
admittedly.. begrudingly..
wlr & watever kendrick album of ur preference
everything else is stream slop or too hiphophead niche for most to care about
im looking forward to the youth finally getting bored w copying carti like theyve been doin the past decade and rap completely falling out of favor so it can reinvent itself like a phoenix out the ashes
wud like to see sampling become more prevalent but for it to be much more left field~distinctly 2030s+ than just the lo-fi/drumless/boom bap/chipmunk soul nostalgia bait we're used to
admittedly.. begrudingly..
wlr & watever kendrick album of ur preference
everything else is stream slop or too hiphophead niche for most to care about
im looking forward to the youth finally getting bored w copying carti like theyve been doin the past decade and rap completely falling out of favor so it can reinvent itself like a phoenix out the ashes
wud like to see sampling become more prevalent but for it to be much more left field~distinctly 2030s+ than just the lo-fi/drumless/boom bap/chipmunk soul nostalgia bait we're used to
great take, honestly interested in what AI is going to do to production in the next coming years, bc I feel like in the 2010s the early sample guys who were making their own compositions to avoid clearance process, ie frank dukes, etc create a very specific sound that to me really defined the late 2010s
ex. if your reading this, post malone's first couple albums, the weeknd for a while,
we also need new writers & producers to create new flows and pockets but i think we have a plethra of new ideas that haven't touched the "mainstream" yet
thread confusing "important" with "influential".
cmon mayneeeeee..
important is also influential
influential isn't always "important"
apologies for the confusion but tap in with your thoughts
thread confusing "important" with "influential".
i mean u cud just as easily name all the 'classic' albums so far but that'd be equally boring. its not a conflation ppl jus chiming in w they own metric
What im looking forward to next is UK crossing over
skepta crawled..
so that aj tracey and dave could walk..
so that central cee could run...
who gon fly?
ngl, off the top donda might be it for me & honestly my opinion can be swayed bc that's just my immediate response
and in terms of whats next:
imo its either a superstar who's already a legacy act, (i.e drake, jay, ye, kendrick, etc) or something that we don't see coming from someone new, cause we desperately need some new blood and a fresh face to take us somewhere else in a way that feels unanimous to pop culture
I just feel like rap rn is still coming out of it's hairglam rock slump in the 80-early 90s (late 2010s rap peak) and that's not to say there aren't special things happening in the space, it's just the lack of monoculture that's frying and further splintering what's considered "the culture"
I see a turnaround coming bc of diff socioeconomic and political factors, and increase in mental health discourse which is def going to create new artists that have more of "message" or just new artists who make songs that are forms of escapism from the world that we live in but realistically a dip means something special is happening soon
Creatively? Probably Whole Lotta Red.
Culturally? GNX, easily.
Thematically? Mr. Morale.