damn

Do you have recommended readings to go further into this subject it’s got my interest tbh

The book in my Wikipedia link is a great start

The video Bestowed linked itt has some great recs about the American Malaise and social stagnancy that’s arisen since 1991 at the beginning of the vid

Why everyone call everything an "era" sounds stupid asf

My only philosophical retort to this is that it does seem that western democracy is woefully unprepared to combat the converging crises that we’re starting to face as we move toward a post-pandemic reality:

• climate disasters at a mass scale
• destruction of discourse and the inability to prevent the spread of misinformation despite or because of our access to information at all times (provided we’re of a certain class, which…)
• class entrenchment and a potential kind of neo-feudalism as the outcome of our housing crisis

I’ll grant that the author does acknowledge “temporary” detours into totalitarianism even in the “end of history” that could last centuries, but what gives us the evidence that western democracy - particularly US/EU democracy, which is extremely young in a historical context - has a stronger likelihood of survival than a fascist/totalitarian state enforced by scarcity and environmental hazard? At that point, the lack of international conflict seems like less of a foregone conclusion.

Idk, fascinating stuff regardless. Really appreciate you sharing. The best part of political philosophy is being armed with perspective as it unfolds.

Zoomer newspeak

Shut up dork

Y2K reloaded

I spent the past hour diving into this Fourth Turning theory.
How can we correlate this to the music industry or media in general?

I think OP meant Hip Hop but Olivia coming for all the pop girlies on her next LP

Mormons and Chinese Communists will inherit the earth

Da/Lil Baby era

Post-bundle era

Tyler's era. It's only uphill from here on out

Gen Z era tbh

The beginning of it, it’s prolly gonna run for another 2-3 years before we get something IMPACTFUL that changes it

S*** sucks too

im in my neutral era. im indifferent to a LOT of s*** rn

this the actual answer

The clone era

But I feel like we coming up on a shift soon

The Carti and Travis era

You Don’t define an era in the era tbh

Hmm do we start with someone ie Miles Davis & Coltrane establishing the 1st turn... Turn 2 - Stevie, Rock n Roll. T3 Prince MJ era. We also have funk, classic soul and radio hits. Leads us to "Prime" Mainstream Hip-hop of Jay, Nas, Kanye. Drake would be the last leg of the 3rd turn (late 90s rnb, pop and neo soul included).

Now headed into the 4th turn we're in this current era of "crisis". Technology has made music more accessible thus has leveled the playing field of art creation more than ever. Musicianship has been replaced for loops and zip files. The bar for 'good' singing has dropped drastically. Most of our favorite singers all have a similar voice/style. Getting a deal seems easier than ever and social media clout is more profitable than being talented. What's amazing is that imo, we're maybe 2-5 years into this "crisis" era. Maybe longer though tbh. Streaming plays a big play too.

Maybe after this turn is finished, we may see a rise in classic musicianship and record label ethics.

Media as a landscape, that requires more thinking lol... although we could start the turns when cinema becomes perfected maybe 100 years ago...

Charts era