Another point is there’s nothing organic about seeing artist grow now.

I remember a friend in work telling me about Tyler the creator because he saw him eat a roach in a video.

I got into kid cudi when my friends at high school told me about “a kid named cudi”

I got into lil Wayne after hearing “party like a rockstar remix”’off YouTube

I got into Drake after hearing a mixtape called “heart break Drake” when on a website.

Everything is now, see something on Tik tok, insta, twitter and then see them on Apple Music.

we need mixtapes back FR

real rap.

There’s no money in them and there’s no actual rapping in most modern rap for a lyrical rapper to get involved in.

lil Wayne was the last of a dying breed to keep doing a mixtape but even he said there’s no value to it anymore.

Now we get mixtapes which are just albums but the artist is scared to put his neck on the line

even uzi was dropping back to back mixtapes in 2016

ppl love them to this day and are seen as his best work

Nobody hungry no more so we’re not really seeing rappers rap like they lives depending on it

It’s more artists treating it like a hobby rather than livelihood/survival

The game needs artists rapping with purpose

commercial mixtapes not really the same thing. They still have to be cleared and stuff.

Mixtapes should be essentially for rappers. Going off on other beats get people talking.

Whose verse was better? I can’t beleive he’s rapping on this beat? I wonder if the original artist will go back at him?

It gets people talking, it gets interest for the artist. Now because it doesn’t make money in an album sale sense it isn’t deemed worth it for them.

Its missing Gatekeepers forcing everybody to duke it out in cyphers first before getting considered the chance to make it big

If an older rapper spoke out they would just be laughed at. No one takes anything seriously anymore.

Jay z did DOA when looking back at it is an embarrassing song with how rap has gone from it but no one says a word about it.

This is fax too. The gatekeepers filtered out a lot of wack mcs

Double edged sword i guess bc I’ve heard older folk say there was a time they wanted the gatekeepers gone so more artists could get into the game

innovation

A lot

younger people don't have lives worth rapping about nowadays

that and no one wants to hear someone born in 2006 rap anyways

Yah that blog era a lot of the talent was truly organic. Even though a lot of artists like Drake, Kendrick, and Cole got major cosigns it was based off of their raw talent and good music. Nowadays everything we hear about is manufactured unless you actively look for it lol. Jpeg and Kenny Mason probably the last rappers I love that I discovered organically

Drake and Kanye too, they made something from nothing, thats the magic

Just because he can do a Spinaroonie doesn’t make him the purest hip hop artist in recent history lol

literally just bring back writing

oldhead echo chamber

people who have an actual passion for rap music and don't just wanna pop off

Another thing to point out is that pre-SoundCloud era rappers debuting in their mid to late 20’s was more common.

S*** pretty much all the goats up until the blog rap era had they breakthroughs around 25+ (50 cent, Kanye, Jay Z, DMX, Eminem)

You could hear the years of experience they pulled from. None of these new niggas have stories worth listening to. They’ll tell you straight up they never held a job or finished school, niggas ain’t moving to major cities struggling to survive like cudi was. Or standing outside record labels like big Sean and J Cole.

It’s all algorithms now and I don’t think we’ll ever go back

a music video, a tape rec, a youtube rec and a host site..

and somehow u think because artists now also proliferate on social media that word of mouth is just gone?

if anything there's more avenues for an artists' "organic" growth. yal are just luddites

Rappers competing to be the best is the number 1 thing.

Money go over head about most people

Literate rappers

And literate fans.

if it was still allat would that not eventually become cliche?

one of the most famous hip hop albums is by a rapper who never finished school..

& y the need for cliche backpack rap when u could appreciate that artists can now go live off making music at home without needing some clueless ass label

then making a blanket statement like their stories arent worth listening to all because theyre coming from different circumstances is just plain dismissive

your point about stars blooming in they late 20s is valid but it sounds like ure judging the new gen before theyve even gotten to that point