TheFader

11mo

i mean isnt the point of a mixtape that its free? stands to reason its not for profit anyway so why bother uploading it to streaming

Because we’ve reached a point where people are so dependent on streaming that they treat non-streaming released music as if it doesn’t exist or isn’t real until it’s officially uploaded onto DSPs. Plus there isn’t really a viable free platform to upload music onto nowadays that didn’t already have its day in the sun.

All of the mixtape apps have been taken down, SoundCloud is dead, YouTube is not a realistic place to upload a project and expect people to listen. It would take a brand new, completely free app that younger rappers start using and build a fanbase off of in order for it to go anywhere

Preme55_

11mo

Streaming really f***ed up the creativity of everything.

Labels have more control over releases than before and uncleared sampled tracks stay unheard. As music consumers we’ve devolved from collecting our own digital libraries

herald

11mo

feel like u aint rly sit w wat i said cus anyone cuda made that argument for wayne back he was still a hot boy but being allowed to express himself that early allowed for his music to mature.

why bemoan the young for youth rather than a rapper's lack of talent and creativity at any age

Mission

11mo

How hard would that be realistically?
Like a pirate streaming service that’s not made for profit, just for the love of music

TheFader

11mo

i mean isnt the point of a mixtape that its free? stands to reason its not for profit anyway so why bother uploading it to streaming

Because we’ve reached a point where people are so dependent on streaming that they treat non-streaming released music as if it doesn’t exist or isn’t real until it’s officially uploaded onto DSPs. Plus there isn’t really a viable free platform to upload music onto nowadays that didn’t already have its day in the sun.

All of the mixtape apps have been taken down, SoundCloud is dead, YouTube is not a realistic place to upload a project and expect people to listen. It would take a brand new, completely free app that younger rappers start using and build a fanbase off of in order for it to go anywhere

proper

11mo

breakdancing and graffiti

Classique

11mo

going by rapping, performance, dancing, etc uzi is one of the purest hip hop artists of the past 10 years

Jim Halpert

11mo

Or maybe

Maybe

An app where you can download and store music locally by purchasing some, downloading some, and even ripping from physical copies.

I call it iTunes.

Mission

11mo

Yeah but that doesn’t really fit my countercultural DIY type of vibe you feel me?

Jim Halpert

11mo

Or maybe

Maybe

An app where you can download and store music locally by purchasing some, downloading some, and even ripping from physical copies.

I call it iTunes.

herald

11mo

so blaming the accessibility of streaming instead of audience interest makes sense? sounds more like the consumption culture needs to change and the third party dsps like bandcamp need to step their game up. people preferring convenience over being genuinely tapped into their so called fav artists is telling. but it's also hard to keep up with in a world of information overload / new music~rappers every minute

soundcloud is past its heyday in terms of breaking out new hit stars (likely replaced by tiktok) but it has just as many listeners as apple music.

youre right that new app contenders are needed but just the ability to leverage youtube's algorithim to proliferate what could be a mixtape single is a huge advantage for an artist's career

Rubbersoul

11mo

I’ve said it many times on here:

Mixtapes
Rappers competing to be the best
Rappers not jumping on random remixes
Rap cliques

CRACKASTEPPAVEGAN

11mo

Y'all, I didn't know Common was a B boy Lol

Mission

11mo

How hard would that be realistically?
Like a pirate streaming service that’s not made for profit, just for the love of music

TheFader

11mo

Buying digitally will forever be a thing of the past. There’s no point in it anymore. If you’re gonna spend real dollars on media, physical is always the way to go

TheFader

11mo

The audience interest has been significantly diluted and affected by the accessibility of streaming is the point we’re trying to make. It’s never been this easy in the history of the music industry to discover and listen to music. That was always gonna have its side effects, both positive and negative

TheFader

11mo

It would be very hard now that paid streaming has kind of set in as the de facto way of listening. But no method in this industry lasts forever, so I’m sure there will be something next that replaces it. My fear is that it’ll be some sort of subscription based service to specific record labels or artist groups.

If there was some free not-for-profit service that popped up at some point, it would take either the most anticipated young talent or the biggest established stars to co-sign it for it to have any real movement. SoundCloud didn’t just blow because it was SoundCloud, it blew because the hottest guy in rap was regularly posting loosie songs for free on there at the same time that a brand new crop of interesting and exciting artists were making names for themselves on there

Jim Halpert

11mo

Everyone saying mixtapes but that can’t happen until streaming ends and ownership comes back.

Jim Halpert

11mo

You’re dropping heat my friend

TheFader

11mo

I’ve been anti-streaming for a few years now. The damage it’s done to music culture just seems to get worse and worse with every day

JPEGMAFIA

11mo

For sure. But there's some gems. Mick Jenkins went fully independent this year. Saba I think is independent and got a great project this year. Idk Little Simz contract status but she's great