Feb 10, 2022·1 reply
SaintJitterxburgFLOne hot album a decade average
the ironyReasonable Doubt, Vol 2, Blueprint, Black Album, American Gangster, and 4:44 are undeniably great, excellent, or whatever adjective you want to use so that's already more than one hot album every decade he's been dropping music. So stop
Vol 1, Blueprint 2, Dynasty, and Blueprint 3 are like 50% great songs and the rest are meh but he has over a dozen albums not all of them are gonna be 10/10
Feb 10, 2022Musically theres nothing you can say about jay
Feb 10, 2022
Bobby_96It's cause Hov doesn't really translate well to younger audiences like that. He has zero sense of melody, hasn't had a true hit since Niggas In Paris, and his features over the past decade have been very hit or miss with some like "What's Free" being incredible while others like "Love All" and "Sorry Not Sorry" being mid for a heralded GOAT.
Then you got the perpetual d***riding from (especially NY based) media that has made him this flawless GOAT for years even though Hov's GOAT status post retirement is debatable. The Verzuz discussion where hip hop media seriously thought he could "wash" Wayne or Kanye is proof of how out of touch many older hip hop heads in the media are imho. Then you have the same media heads talking about how Nas has "one hot album every 10 years" while acting like Jay's catalog is so consistent
That said, Hov is definitely top 10 DOA to me and has a claim for being the GOAT for sure. And I agree that the disrespect from younger and non-East Coast rap fans is getting out of control. But you gotta understand that Hov's impact outside the East Coast post retirement hasn't been as big as what hip hop media will have you believe.
WHAT'S THIS? F***ING FACTS
- Feb 10, 2022·1 reply
Dude is great, but god damn, he is not that much better than the people he is constantly compared to in these discussions.
- Feb 10, 2022Bobby_96
It's cause Hov doesn't really translate well to younger audiences like that. He has zero sense of melody, hasn't had a true hit since Niggas In Paris, and his features over the past decade have been very hit or miss with some like "What's Free" being incredible while others like "Love All" and "Sorry Not Sorry" being mid for a heralded GOAT.
Then you got the perpetual d***riding from (especially NY based) media that has made him this flawless GOAT for years even though Hov's GOAT status post retirement is debatable. The Verzuz discussion where hip hop media seriously thought he could "wash" Wayne or Kanye is proof of how out of touch many older hip hop heads in the media are imho. Then you have the same media heads talking about how Nas has "one hot album every 10 years" while acting like Jay's catalog is so consistent
That said, Hov is definitely top 10 DOA to me and has a claim for being the GOAT for sure. And I agree that the disrespect from younger and non-East Coast rap fans is getting out of control. But you gotta understand that Hov's impact outside the East Coast post retirement hasn't been as big as what hip hop media will have you believe.
yeah i can see this. he's not the biggest hitmaker in the world and his music can be too lyrically dense for people go back thru if they aren't motivated to listen to that kind of music
- Feb 10, 2022ragedsycokiller
Dude is great, but god damn, he is not that much better than the people he is constantly compared to in these discussions.
talking about rap and rap alone he's the GOAT imo but if we value melodies, versatility, and some other things there's clearly other people ahead of him
- Feb 10, 2022·1 replyClassique
Reasonable Doubt, Vol 2, Blueprint, Black Album, American Gangster, and 4:44 are undeniably great, excellent, or whatever adjective you want to use so that's already more than one hot album every decade he's been dropping music. So stop
Vol 1, Blueprint 2, Dynasty, and Blueprint 3 are like 50% great songs and the rest are meh but he has over a dozen albums not all of them are gonna be 10/10
1.75 hot albums a decade
Im just playin
- Feb 10, 2022·1 replySaintJitterxburgFL
1.75 hot albums a decade
Im just playin
1.75 made me spit out my drink lmaooo
Feb 10, 2022It’s interesting…actually enjoy HOVs music more now that I’m older than I did when I was younger. YOUNG
Feb 10, 2022They build you up break you down then build you up again
They like Hov we need you back so we can kill your ass again- Feb 10, 2022Classique
1.75 made me spit out my drink lmaooo
WHATCHU WANT ME TO DO IM SORRY! 
Feb 10, 2022his discography is full of mid
Feb 11, 2022My older brother put me on hip hop, and I'll forever love him for that, dude taught me about Hov. I was like crazy religious back then so I remember always being shocked at his name "Jay - Hova". It was sacrilegious, it shocked me but at the same time it f***ing excited every f***ing fibre of my being. Like this guy was calling himself God. Like what?
You're allowed to do that?
What the f***. I didn't know.
Jay-Z was dope, in his time. His music aged well (99 Problems still goes in, Ain't No Love too, and so does Can I Live), but goddammit he did not.
I think it's okay that the younger generation don't rate him. I know a lot of rappers that came before Jay that I'd never even give the time of day. It's just how these things go unfortunately.
But Jay-Z was dope, in his time. For the older folk, he would wash Wayne et al in a versus but obviously we watched those careers unfold and they built on what Jay laid down (as Jay did for those that came before him) so there'd be no way he'd win.
I think Cole is playing the role Jay-Z should have taken after The Black Album, he should have mentored the younger generation. It seemed he was so scared of being made irrelevant and it completely warped his energy/personality and output.
I have a personal grudge against him because he seems to look down on the kids who are doing the exact same thing he did when he was a kid. He claims to want to guide but is doing so from his lofty position, it's disingenuous. And the kids are dope, like Jesus Christ these kids are f***ing insane, they're dope. As kids will always be, like he was in his time.
So yeah, Jay-Z was dope, like really f***ing dope, in his time.