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  • Jan 6, 2022

    This guy

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    nerds

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    dedalusbloom

    It’s a tension in Marx’s work. The early ‘humanist’ Marx walks a fine line, not saying that capitalism is ‘morally wrong’ but that it prevents humanity’s full flourishing. But that’s still an ’ought’ claim. The later Marx embraces - or is interpreted as embracing - the position you’re talking about.

    I always forget the divide between young and old Marx but yeah I see that I dont think Marx abandoned his younger humanist view but just found a stronger argument for socialism that doesnt depend on morality.

  • Colossaly greek, what a shock

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    I dont know who any of these nerds are

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    My top 3

    1. Benedictus Spinoza (100%)

    2. Stoics (81%)

    3. Jean-Paul Sartre (79%)

    Idk who these old ass dudes are btw

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    >Only westoid philosophers

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    Offline

    >Only westoid philosophers

    u reading Laozi in ur offtime?

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    the boi Schopenhauer

  • Semi 🐬
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    blonded

    Personally I find it hard to believe that something as conceptual and abstract as morals are able to have universal truths. I think societies can promote certain morals enough that people believe them to be objective, but those ideas had to have come from somewhere and for a reason, right? I would assume many moral statements come from humans coming together and wanting to form a functioning society that achieves a certain goal

    I think the "somewhere" is what is universal, the morals in your case would be how they are represented from person to person.

    What I am saying is that to me the root of morals is the "somewhere or someplace" that those ideas come from. Which I believe to be the same place.

    Some grounding aspect of life wide scale.

    From there we choose our compass to form a goal, but underneath we have access to a universal bank.

    In this way I'm saying morals are represented differently from case to case, but are still universal.

    I'm not thinking of the individual as a whole but as a part, and morals as the whole we pick pieces from.

    Not one truth, but many, coming from one place.

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    >Only westoid philosophers

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    Philosophers get no p**** #fact

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    Womanpuncher69

    To you and me, yeah of course, but slaveowners grew up with that being normal and taught from a young age that these people are their objects and they can do whatever they want with them and still reach heaven. So they're gonna internally justify their actions to themselves.

    This is not to excuse their actions no one is above morality and can see everything from a "rational" point of view, im a subject to my own morality as they are to their own.

    Their morality is absolutely horrendous from my POV but im also a brown bisexual so to them im an abomination of satan to some old white slave owner.

    Imo, at some point your humanity should kick in. Like you're doing all this cruel s***. Whipping people, hanging them from trees, shooting them as they run away. I feel like my empathy wouldn't allow me to do this to people, no matter what society or the law says. But internally justifying it to themselves is something I hadn't thought of, maybe there were a lot of people struggling with the notion of slavery

    I feel a lot of the third paragraph. The crazy thing is Apartheid only ended like 30 years ago. So people who openly thought I'm worthless because of the colour of my skin are still walking around me. They just treating me and everyone who looks like me differently now because the laws changed. And that's not enough time to change thought patterns in a meaningful way, kids are probably lowkey being raised to keep those beliefs going

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    math fifty

    Philosophers get no p**** #fact

    Dam U were a philosopher a year ago?

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    blonded

    u reading Laozi in ur offtime?

    Shankara brother

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    blonded

    Dam U were a philosopher a year ago?

    Damn bro that was funny

  • Semi 🐬
    Jan 6, 2022
    Semi

    I think the "somewhere" is what is universal, the morals in your case would be how they are represented from person to person.

    What I am saying is that to me the root of morals is the "somewhere or someplace" that those ideas come from. Which I believe to be the same place.

    Some grounding aspect of life wide scale.

    From there we choose our compass to form a goal, but underneath we have access to a universal bank.

    In this way I'm saying morals are represented differently from case to case, but are still universal.

    I'm not thinking of the individual as a whole but as a part, and morals as the whole we pick pieces from.

    Not one truth, but many, coming from one place.

    Like a moral compass fractal

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    math fifty

    Philosophers get no p**** #fact

    Major cap

    Rousseau got unreal amounts of p****

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    Semi

    I think the "somewhere" is what is universal, the morals in your case would be how they are represented from person to person.

    What I am saying is that to me the root of morals is the "somewhere or someplace" that those ideas come from. Which I believe to be the same place.

    Some grounding aspect of life wide scale.

    From there we choose our compass to form a goal, but underneath we have access to a universal bank.

    In this way I'm saying morals are represented differently from case to case, but are still universal.

    I'm not thinking of the individual as a whole but as a part, and morals as the whole we pick pieces from.

    Not one truth, but many, coming from one place.

    So are you saying that you believe morals to be some abstract universal "pie of ideas" that individuals are taking slices from when they form their own morals? I'm not sure I follow if not

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    Camus

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    math fifty

    Philosophers get no p**** #fact

    Camus was slaying p**** left and right

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    aglow

    Camus

    just finished reading The Stranger a couple days ago, gonna start The Myth of Sisyphus today. apparently I shoulda read that one first

  • Jan 6, 2022
    math fifty

    Philosophers get no p**** #fact

    false!

  • Jan 6, 2022

    jean-paul sartre

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