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  • Sep 6, 2022
    insertcoolnamehere

    Every rapper has help/assistance.

    I’m sure when he was with black hippy/tde they all helped each other out (e.g. Ab-Soul’s the one that came up with hiipower as a concept.)

    It’s already documented how much he helped out with trash talk ( :word: )

    Bro I’m not tryna hear this s*** until we have concrete evidence of him getting raps written for him. Like actual verses

  • Sep 6, 2022
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    CKL TML

    You either get help or you dont. I dont care if its for beats with finished melodies & hooks or a few lines on the verses. The criteria that rappers can have finished songs made for them as long as they write 2x8 bars is insane

    “finished songs” “as long as they write the verses”

    so basically, hooks with open verses?

  • cold mountain

    seriously? i didnt know that

  • Sep 6, 2022
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    playboi carti

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    CKL TML

    You either get help or you dont. I dont care if its for beats with finished melodies & hooks or a few lines on the verses. The criteria that rappers can have finished songs made for them as long as they write 2x8 bars is insane

    The rule was always about verses. Y’all are tryna shift the rules cause ya boy got caught sharing bars like he got the bottom bunk in a two man cell

  • CKL TML 🌺
    Sep 6, 2022
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    ImAUsernameLike

    “finished songs” “as long as they write the verses”

    so basically, hooks with open verses?

    Exactly. Alright was an anthem because of the beat and hook. Which were 100% finished by Pharrell and another writer before Kendrick ever heard the song. So he does get help even if its not for verses

  • Sep 6, 2022
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    Drake forgiving Meek Mill is proof he really is a better man tbh.

    Meek Mill may have lost the battle but he really did leave a permanent if now minor stain on drake’s pedigree.

  • CKL TML 🌺
    Sep 6, 2022
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    SHAQUILLE

    The rule was always about verses. Y’all are tryna shift the rules cause ya boy got caught sharing bars like he got the bottom bunk in a two man cell

    I dont care about a made up rule. All the legends like snoop, ice cube and nas used writers before. tupac fished a verse out of the trashcan and used it. only rule that matters is good music

  • CKL TML 🌺
    Sep 6, 2022
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    insertcoolnamehere

    Drake forgiving Meek Mill is proof he really is a better man tbh.

    Meek Mill may have lost the battle but he really did leave a permanent if now minor stain on drake’s pedigree.

    its just trolls still giving him s*** for him still. none of the legends said anything cause they know how it works

  • Sep 6, 2022
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    vagabonds

    playboi carti

    Carti freestyled a whole career.

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    Cash Dodgers

    Carti freestyled a whole career.

    a GOAT career

  • Sep 6, 2022
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    CKL TML

    its just trolls still giving him s*** for him still. none of the legends said anything cause they know how it works

    Eh, kendrick was giving him heat all throughout tpab for it lol

  • Sep 6, 2022
    CKL TML

    I dont care about a made up rule. All the legends like snoop, ice cube and nas used writers before. tupac fished a verse out of the trashcan and used it. only rule that matters is good music

    Ok but we’re talking about Goatdrick never using ghost writers. So them other guys are irrelevant to the discussion

  • CKL TML 🌺
    Sep 6, 2022
    insertcoolnamehere

    Eh, kendrick was giving him heat all throughout tpab for it lol

    I walk in godly form amongst the mortal men

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    Niggas that dont do music not understanding what “getting help” means lmfao.

    There’s a reason Kanye has so many writing credits and it’s not as simple as “oh, he dont write”

    Literally if you help out with a cadence or a flow for a rapper, you technically could get credited for that.

    That is in essence helping out a rapper.

  • Sep 6, 2022

    Nicki

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    BIGGWAVE

    megan

    pardi

  • Sep 6, 2022
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    insertcoolnamehere

    Niggas that dont do music not understanding what “getting help” means lmfao.

    There’s a reason Kanye has so many writing credits and it’s not as simple as “oh, he dont write”

    Literally if you help out with a cadence or a flow for a rapper, you technically could get credited for that.

    That is in essence helping out a rapper.

    A lot of kanyes writing credits especially on MBDTF come from samples

    It’s only from TLOP on that he had a f*** ton of writers

  • Sep 6, 2022
    vagabonds

    a GOAT career

    Undeniable Excellence.

  • cold mountain

    nigga what else do you know?

    Think ab soul said that in an interview

    And Q was hella open bout his peers making him do different versions of trash talk or something

  • Sep 6, 2022
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    Wayne Nicki Drake

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    CKL TML

    Exactly. Alright was an anthem because of the beat and hook. Which were 100% finished by Pharrell and another writer before Kendrick ever heard the song. So he does get help even if its not for verses

    well yea no one’s denying that. isn’t thread about ghost writers though?

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    SHAQUILLE

    A lot of kanyes writing credits especially on MBDTF come from samples

    It’s only from TLOP on that he had a f*** ton of writers

    But even on mbdtf when there was that whole exposé on the writing process, he would have verses and ask his peers what they thought of em lol

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    insertcoolnamehere

    But even on mbdtf when there was that whole exposé on the writing process, he would have verses and ask his peers what they thought of em lol

    That’s collaboration. That’s not the same as literally getting verses or bits of verses from other niggas and then claiming you wrote everything yourself

  • Sep 6, 2022
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    Dedication 666

    Wayne Nicki Drake

    2 out of 3.
    And that’s only cause Nicki definitely comes off as a “it’s my way or no way” type lol

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