TECHNICAL RAP?? HELLLLLLLL NOOOOOO

B tier pen. but overall artistically he at least A tier

That’s fine but drake does have better punch lines than Kendrick

Better “punchlines”? Is this 2004?

That Churchill Downs verse one of the best I’ve heard this year

dressed in fatigues, i rep the east wit my trustees, smokin on crushed leaves

Punchlines still matter, Drake is a wittier rapper than kendrick. I’ve honestly been more wowed at drakes double entendres and punchlines than Kendrick’s

Never denied that, even as someone who isn’t a fan of Kenny I can’t deny he is one of the most gifted rappers I’ve ever seen

WRT the attributes you mentioned, I think Drake is on equal footing regarding cadences, creative use of his voices, emotional delivery, and timing

Rhyme schemes, abstract wordplay and pace changing ill give to kendrick

but tbh they approach the game so differently that its hard to make a 1:1 comparison

Yeah that’s Drakes strength. I think there are rappers who technically can edge him out but as a songwriter Drake is a master craftsmen. That’s why he’s a legend. There are a lot of great rappers who just can’t make great songs, especially at the rate at which drake does it

For real like there are so many rappity rappers out there, what he has is a true talent

Yup, that’s pretty much how I feel about his pen. Drake is a very good/elite technical rapper but he might be one of, if not THE greatest songwriter of all time

Drake is an amazing songwriter and early in his career was going bar for bar with some legends. He’s in that space, man loves battle rap

Punchlines have always been a staple of rap, although now its referred to as “quotables”

It’s much harder than you think to be able to get a concise powerful line across that sticks in peoples heads years later

That’s because they are easier to understand

Drake’s lyrics are very straight forward

Kendrick’s lyrics are intentionally abstract and left to interpretation

Kendrick doesn’t waste time with “look what I can do” punchlines because he is always focused 100% on conveying whatever message or emotion he’s tapping into.

Rap in its purest form

We now literally have ppl on here who started listening to rap in 2014 lol

no seriously

why do people attribute charming wordplay and one liners to s tier technical rapping lol

1, that song isn't as good as you think it is.

2, one song doesn't make you in the elites.

You smoking meth and d8ck if you think Drake Is S-tier

Well we all got different tastes I guess. I dont even think drake’s punchlines are particularly “look what I can do” bars, most of the time they go along with his verse he’s never really been a pretentious rapper.

I’m a fan of battle rap so maybe that’s why I prefer Double entendres/punchlines/metaphors more than other qualities. Kendrick is more of a storytelling/theme-based rapper imo but is still very skilled

Idk where else to take the convo from here buddy because I hard disagree with all this basically 🤣

And don’t get me wrong Drake is in my top 10 so I am VERY familiar with what he can do. I can rap most of his verses word for word. S*** like LPF Only you freestyle etc is mind blowing

But he STILL not on the same level as Kendrick

The thought of it makes me chuckle actually

Being able to get lines across in a concise way is a virtue not a vice brother

Complexity for the sake of complexity isn’t always a good thing

Those aren’t the only things drake has going for him as a rapper. That’s why he is S tier

i dont think this is entirely true

kendrick knows how to show off with lyricism without explicitly doing so

I mean I dont wanna spam the thread with youtube links but I have a hard time understanding how you can look at
Tuscan Leather
4pm
5am in Toronto
Lemon Pepper
Etc

And not see that this dude has been a cut above any major rapper for over a decade

B-

That’s where y’all have Kendrick f***ed up

It’s not “for the sake of complexity”

It never was

Kendrick’s complexity is completely natural

It just spills out of him