What tier of technical rap do you think drake is

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  • ryuH

    Idk where else to take the convo from here buddy because I hard disagree with all this basically 🤣

    And don’t get me wrong Drake is in my top 10 so I am VERY familiar with what he can do. I can rap most of his verses word for word. S*** like LPF Only you freestyle etc is mind blowing

    But he STILL not on the same level as Kendrick

    The thought of it makes me chuckle actually

    Oh for sure, not trying to change your mind man just enjoying the discussion of two goats

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    Pac had the messaging
    Big had the punchlines/cadences/flows

    The 2 can coexist, I just prefer the Big side of things

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    texasbrisket

    Those aren’t the only things drake has going for him as a rapper. That’s why he is S tier

    but if the category is technical rap then why does the other things drake has going on as a rapper matter

    like if you mean his singing or something that doesnt apply

    drakes strongest features as a rapper is having neat little wordplay sequences:

    There's a mad shortage of people givin' me kudos
    I been doin' this since T-Pain was pourin' us Nuvo
    You tell 'em I run the country, they'll say "True though"
    Papi chulo, grippin' culo

    hes good at one liners:

    I'm in New York goin' Jon Chetrit
    Supermodels and they all sexy
    Lock the door to the bathroom 'cause they doin' something that is not Pepsi

    he's good at braggadocio. these are things that he is explicitly good at. i dont think these make him s tier technically

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    VeggieKubernetes

    I mean I dont wanna spam the thread with youtube links but I have a hard time understanding how you can look at
    Tuscan Leather
    4pm
    5am in Toronto
    Lemon Pepper
    Etc

    And not see that this dude has been a cut above any major rapper for over a decade

    A cut above Kendrick? You are DELUSIONAL.

    He's not even rapping better than Cole right now.

    You may be able to d***ride him in these echo chambers, but outside of that rap heads will never consider him a top tier lyricist.

    Good? Yes But he's not even better than his contemporaries let alone the greatest of the greats.

    I love how people think that people hate on Drake, but d***riders can't admit he's not the absolute best at even one, just ONE aspect of the artform.

    Is Drake the best lyricist of all time
    Does he have the best flow of all time (consider biggie, prime snoop, 3K)
    Is he the best hip hop artist? (Yall already know that's a gotdamn lie, its kanye)

    Like he's good. But that just ain't good enough for yall.

    This nigga writes Instagram captions instead of making concept albums and off the chart rhyme schemes. It is not on the same level. Quotables for social media is not the same thing as being the best technician. If you guys weren't teenagers you'd remember when rap took more than one liners. It wasn't that long ago at all.

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    Takotchi

    but if the category is technical rap then why does the other things drake has going on as a rapper matter

    like if you mean his singing or something that doesnt apply

    drakes strongest features as a rapper is having neat little wordplay sequences:

    There's a mad shortage of people givin' me kudos
    I been doin' this since T-Pain was pourin' us Nuvo
    You tell 'em I run the country, they'll say "True though"
    Papi chulo, grippin' culo

    hes good at one liners:

    I'm in New York goin' Jon Chetrit
    Supermodels and they all sexy
    Lock the door to the bathroom 'cause they doin' something that is not Pepsi

    he's good at braggadocio. these are things that he is explicitly good at. i dont think these make him s tier technically

    When I say other things I mean: flows, cadences, delivery, tone, vocal inflections as well as having a phenomenal pen.

    Some people can write their ass off but can’t deliver for s***, drake encompasses almost everything that makes a rapper elite.

    Same with Kendrick, but neither are perfect. They are both lacking in some areas as rappers

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    texasbrisket

    Pac had the messaging
    Big had the punchlines/cadences/flows

    The 2 can coexist, I just prefer the Big side of things

    Same the big side makes for more enjoyable music. The message thing is cool, but it doesnt always make for great music

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    texasbrisket

    Yup, that’s pretty much how I feel about his pen. Drake is a very good/elite technical rapper but he might be one of, if not THE greatest songwriter of all time

    lmao

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    Maartins

    He’s literally jay z and wayne rolled into one

    Lmao

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    Bo Ceephus

    A cut above Kendrick? You are DELUSIONAL.

    He's not even rapping better than Cole right now.

    You may be able to d***ride him in these echo chambers, but outside of that rap heads will never consider him a top tier lyricist.

    Good? Yes But he's not even better than his contemporaries let alone the greatest of the greats.

    I love how people think that people hate on Drake, but d***riders can't admit he's not the absolute best at even one, just ONE aspect of the artform.

    Is Drake the best lyricist of all time
    Does he have the best flow of all time (consider biggie, prime snoop, 3K)
    Is he the best hip hop artist? (Yall already know that's a gotdamn lie, its kanye)

    Like he's good. But that just ain't good enough for yall.

    This nigga writes Instagram captions instead of making concept albums and off the chart rhyme schemes. It is not on the same level. Quotables for social media is not the same thing as being the best technician. If you guys weren't teenagers you'd remember when rap took more than one liners. It wasn't that long ago at all.

    Preach bro. We all love Drake and he’s an all time great but Stan’s pushing the narrative of him literally being the best rapper is wild asf

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    texasbrisket

    When I say other things I mean: flows, cadences, delivery, tone, vocal inflections as well as having a phenomenal pen.

    Some people can write their ass off but can’t deliver for s***, drake encompasses almost everything that makes a rapper elite.

    Same with Kendrick, but neither are perfect. They are both lacking in some areas as rappers

    i apologize but i have to disagree, i dont think besides his cadence and delivery are those strong attributes for drake

    i think his pen for singing is stronger than his rap pen personally

    but thank you for your sharing your opinions

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    ryuH

    Preach bro. We all love Drake and he’s an all time great but Stan’s pushing the narrative of him literally being the best rapper is wild asf

    Exactly. I don't even hate Drake. But I hate his trash ass fan base and I applaud when they mute them mfs

    I love Drake but there's things he's obviously good at and music that he makes for some purposes. And some s*** he just not that good at

  • Bo Ceephus

    A cut above Kendrick? You are DELUSIONAL.

    He's not even rapping better than Cole right now.

    You may be able to d***ride him in these echo chambers, but outside of that rap heads will never consider him a top tier lyricist.

    Good? Yes But he's not even better than his contemporaries let alone the greatest of the greats.

    I love how people think that people hate on Drake, but d***riders can't admit he's not the absolute best at even one, just ONE aspect of the artform.

    Is Drake the best lyricist of all time
    Does he have the best flow of all time (consider biggie, prime snoop, 3K)
    Is he the best hip hop artist? (Yall already know that's a gotdamn lie, its kanye)

    Like he's good. But that just ain't good enough for yall.

    This nigga writes Instagram captions instead of making concept albums and off the chart rhyme schemes. It is not on the same level. Quotables for social media is not the same thing as being the best technician. If you guys weren't teenagers you'd remember when rap took more than one liners. It wasn't that long ago at all.

    Nah not above kendrick, look at my previous comments I have them 1A and 1B

    I wouldn’t say he’s the best lyricist of all time but in the context of rappers who are able to “do more with less”, he’s goated. He can deliver a concise line that conveys exactly what he wants and everyone will understand it

    As far as flows? I dont think he gets enough credit for consistently keeping his flows fresh (especially if you look at where he started with the super duper flow). He’s mastered the laid back flow that Jay Z uses, he has energetic flows and I dont think you can name someone right now that can ride a beat Better than him

    And im almost 30 dude lol, I promise this isn’t new to me. People like GZA are on my Mount Rushmore precisely because of their wordplay and punchlines

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    Bo Ceephus

    Exactly. I don't even hate Drake. But I hate his trash ass fan base and I applaud when they mute them mfs

    I love Drake but there's things he's obviously good at and music that he makes for some purposes. And some s*** he just not that good at

    Who's your favorite rapper, this should be good

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    Lil sleepy

    Who's your favorite rapper, this should be good

    It's clearly slick Rick.

    Look I named myself after my favorite like the little girl you are

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    Bo Ceephus

    It's clearly slick Rick.

    Look I named myself after my favorite like the little girl you are

    All I needed to know, keep it moving bruh

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    Takotchi

    i apologize but i have to disagree, i dont think besides his cadence and delivery are those strong attributes for drake

    i think his pen for singing is stronger than his rap pen personally

    but thank you for your sharing your opinions

    What do you mean by “pen for singing”? Like his melodies and hooks and s***? You think drake is better at making those type of songs than his rap songs? Cause I think ppl just gravitate to the former a little more

    If you listen to the time stamp records you should already know what type of time drake is on as a rapper.

  • Bo Ceephus

    It's clearly slick Rick.

    Look I named myself after my favorite like the little girl you are

    Mr brother in allah it is 9am

    Let that hate out of your heart

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    Bo Ceephus

    A cut above Kendrick? You are DELUSIONAL.

    He's not even rapping better than Cole right now.

    You may be able to d***ride him in these echo chambers, but outside of that rap heads will never consider him a top tier lyricist.

    Good? Yes But he's not even better than his contemporaries let alone the greatest of the greats.

    I love how people think that people hate on Drake, but d***riders can't admit he's not the absolute best at even one, just ONE aspect of the artform.

    Is Drake the best lyricist of all time
    Does he have the best flow of all time (consider biggie, prime snoop, 3K)
    Is he the best hip hop artist? (Yall already know that's a gotdamn lie, its kanye)

    Like he's good. But that just ain't good enough for yall.

    This nigga writes Instagram captions instead of making concept albums and off the chart rhyme schemes. It is not on the same level. Quotables for social media is not the same thing as being the best technician. If you guys weren't teenagers you'd remember when rap took more than one liners. It wasn't that long ago at all.

    “Off the chart rhyme schemes” cmon man

    All that is just some pretentious s*** we in 2022. Drake is a wittier rapper than Kendrick it is what it is. Find me 5 Kendrick punchlines/examples of wordplay that is really impressive.

    You won’t be able to because everything he does is about being the voice of reckoning for hip-hop

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    To downplay drake as an “ig caption rapper” when this exists is crazyyy to me

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    We just gotta come to terms with the fact that with drake, he won’t get his flowers till he’s dead

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    texasbrisket

    Pac had the messaging
    Big had the punchlines/cadences/flows

    The 2 can coexist, I just prefer the Big side of things

    In that scenario Big was more technically gifted than Pac tho

    His flow, cadence, rhyme schemes etc were pretty far ahead of what Pac was doing even tho Pac message was exponentially more powerful

    In this case Kendrick is all around a more technically sound rapper than Drake AND has a better message

    Drake only has him in a few categories

    I’ll give you the punchlines and double entendres

    Drake is an absolute genius when it comes to that stuff

    But it rarely means anything outside of him just flexing his skill

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    Mango

    Don't compare Drake's boring, Billboard appeal ass to MF DOOM lol

    Child actor mannequin roleplaying cultures and making heartless love songs and what not. So uninteresting

    You try too hard I miss your new poster gimmick more

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    Noir

    His flows are almost always great but he only puts effort into his lyrics like 10% of the time anymore so idk B tier I guess. He's honestly a really good rapper that half asses a lot of his own music.

    this

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    texasbrisket

    To downplay drake as an “ig caption rapper” when this exists is crazyyy to me

    !https://youtu.be/YvY0ZlkBH0E

    This album should have only been Side A man

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    texasbrisket

    To downplay drake as an “ig caption rapper” when this exists is crazyyy to me

    !https://youtu.be/YvY0ZlkBH0E

    Imagine one of your biggest critiques is "IG caption rap" aka the people who listen to your music actually relate to it too much

    Only applies to this guy

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