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  • americana

    Western liberal ideologue provides a brain dead take again

  • Jun 15, 2023
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    Birdie

    Oh wait, you’re the foolish one who also denied the Uygher ethnic cleanse

    But I’m sure you support Palestinians too despite that other take related to Muslims

    And I’m the western ideologue lol

    There's 0 proof of an "Uygher ethnic cleanse"

  • Jun 15, 2023
    Cody

    Idk but I helped some girl today who’s mom was trying to fly back to Kuwait and she was literally one of the most beautiful women I’ve ever seen

    Uh okay? Lol

  • Jun 15, 2023
    Birdie

    Very poor and politically unstable with Hasbulla/Iran/Israel

    The Dagestani midget? Lol

  • Jun 15, 2023
    FranquitoReynolds

    He is a pashtun from Afghanistan.
    They believe they are descendants of Muhammad or something and think building dams and drying out the f***ing rivers is good for the country.

    You’re a rеtard and idgaf where you’re from

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    Sloth

    There's 0 proof of an "Uygher ethnic cleanse"

    I’m not entertaining this when there are (conservatively) hundreds of Uyghurs in diaspora who attest directly to the evidence on top of being primary sources themselves

    It is not a debate.

    If you’re ever in NYC or DC, you can even find communities of them and ask them yourselves or be bold and try tell them it isnt happening

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    Birdie
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    I’m not entertaining this when there are (conservatively) hundreds of Uyghurs in diaspora who attest directly to the evidence on top of being primary sources themselves

    It is not a debate.

    If you’re ever in NYC or DC, you can even find communities of them and ask them yourselves or be bold and try tell them it isnt happening

    Have you talked to them?

    or do you rely on CIA agent Adrian Zenz?

  • Jun 15, 2023
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    Sloth

    Have you talked to them?

    or do you rely on CIA agent Adrian Zenz?

    Yes there’s a community in nyc and because I’m a Muslim and cared about it to ask

    I encountered a couple near my job who run a restaurant in midtown manhattan and spoke to them directly, many of them arrived to the US in the past 4-5 years

    But yeah, go ahead and be snarky and dismissive

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    Birdie

    Yes there’s a community in nyc and because I’m a Muslim and cared about it to ask

    I encountered a couple near my job who run a restaurant in midtown manhattan and spoke to them directly, many of them arrived to the US in the past 4-5 years

    But yeah, go ahead and be snarky and dismissive

    So they flew here from China? Did you speak to them in uyghur?

  • Jun 15, 2023
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    Sloth

    So they flew here from China? Did you speak to them in uyghur?

    They know enough English considering they run business here and yes they’re directly from the northwestern provinces and still have many direct families living there

  • Jun 15, 2023
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    Birdie

    They know enough English considering they run business here and yes they’re directly from the northwestern provinces and still have many direct families living there

    So they speak their language and had the freedom to leave

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    Sloth

    So they speak their language and had the freedom to leave

    Leaving a region discounts the reality of an ethnic cleanse happening?

    What about the Palestinians living in the West Bank? Yazidis, Yemenite Jews in 20th century?

    Im not gonna lie and say I asked them directly why they themselves left but ethnic cleanse isn’t just killing, it’s the removal of a population through expulsion. So ‘freedom to leave’ isn’t an invalidating factor or anythin, for example I’m sure a Zionist would say Palestinians are free to leave

    Idk what you mean by the language part, administrative lanaguges mandated exist. Turkey banned Kurdish for decades upon decades to be spoken publicly

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    Birdie
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    Leaving a region discounts the reality of an ethnic cleanse happening?

    What about the Palestinians living in the West Bank? Yazidis, Yemenite Jews in 20th century?

    Im not gonna lie and say I asked them directly why they themselves left but ethnic cleanse isn’t just killing, it’s the removal of a population through expulsion. So ‘freedom to leave’ isn’t an invalidating factor or anythin, for example I’m sure a Zionist would say Palestinians are free to leave

    Idk what you mean by the language part, administrative lanaguges mandated exist. Turkey banned Kurdish for decades upon decades to be spoken publicly

    The freedom to leave, knowing their language, teaching the language to children in schools... man China is doing a terrible job at ethnic cleansing.

    Also, it's a lot harder to leave Palestine than it is China, which is easy.

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    Sloth

    The freedom to leave, knowing their language, teaching the language to children in schools... man China is doing a terrible job at ethnic cleansing.

    Also, it's a lot harder to leave Palestine than it is China, which is easy.

    You’re avoiding the point also I bet if I linked you direct sources showcasing the double digit population decline you would just called that propaganda

    There’s no point in continuing, do the extra effort of trying to connect with the people you’re trying to dismiss yourself. If you care so much, I’m obviously not gonna change your mind so why waste eachothers’s time

  • Jun 15, 2023
    Birdie

    You’re avoiding the point also I bet if I linked you direct sources showcasing the double digit population decline you would just called that propaganda

    There’s no point in continuing, do the extra effort of trying to connect with the people you’re trying to dismiss yourself. If you care so much, I’m obviously not gonna change your mind so why waste eachothers’s time

    I would call it propaganda because it most likely comes from Satan's British Empire

  • Jun 15, 2023

    Smells like Adrian zenz in here

  • Jun 16, 2023
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    Birdie

    Jordan

    It’s a poor nation but it’s backed by basically every regional power and the US. Foreigners with money live very comfortably in Amman.

    • Borders everything

    • Good mix of liberal and traditional depending who you are

    • Very friendly to foreigners and authentic

    • Very rich heritage sites

    • Some of the best food

    • Nice Mediterranean climate

    • Allows easier access to Palestine

    You can travel to which ever other middle eastern you want

    UAE/other gulf countries have very bad weather and are inauthentic due to how many expats live there versus citizens

    Any places you'd recommend in Jordan besides Amman?

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    Birdie

    Iraq also for the most part has been rebuilt and is very beautiful

    Was actually thinking on Iraq recently

    Have you been recently or know anyone that's travelling or living there?

  • Jun 16, 2023
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    this thread has it all

  • Jun 16, 2023
    Vox

    Was actually thinking on Iraq recently

    Have you been recently or know anyone that's travelling or living there?

    Doesn’t seem safe

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    all of em

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    RX Diggler

    all of em

    Even Afghanistan

  • Jun 16, 2023
    Iloveponies_

    Even Afghanistan

    iont think afghanistan considered the middle east but yes even them dont let the media convince u otherwise i have afghan friends and they all speak wonders of their country beautiful place

  • Jun 16, 2023
    Vox

    Any places you'd recommend in Jordan besides Amman?

    Aqaba, Al Salt, Madaba

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    Vox

    Was actually thinking on Iraq recently

    Have you been recently or know anyone that's travelling or living there?

    My coworker is an Iraqi in London and she’s happy traveling there to and from versus before

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