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  • hayabusa

    cracker thread

  • Aisosa

    I think you underestimate what self-reflection is.

    It's facing and expressing uncomfortable truths about yourself.

    Jay Z is an excellent poet, but his appeal is that he paints more vivid pictures than the average dope boy turned millionaire.

    I'll ask this again, what has Jay Z revealed to you about himself that doesn't paint him a good/sympathetic light?

    H to the Izzo last verse one of the most self reflective verses ever made

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    Aisosa

    Nas, Eminem... I hear Black Thought did something in that vein even though I haven't checked it out.

    even though I havent checked it out

    And that’s the problem

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    insertcoolnamehere

    even though I havent checked it out

    And that’s the problem

    How is that a problem?

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    Honestly never got why people urge Drake to drop a 4:44 when Jay Z was in his 40s talking about spilling ace on his Jordan’s in the club and bragging about icing out Rolexes all on WTT

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    Aisosa

    Vanilla Ice and MC Hammer have classics.

    @mods

    certain takes should just result in perma bans

  • Aisosa

    How is that a problem?

    You cant point out another artist to try to s*** on another artist when you yourself didnt even listen to said artist you tryna bring up

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    insertcoolnamehere

    @​mods

    certain takes should just result in perma bans

    Have you heard Please Hammer Don't Hurt 'Em?

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    Aisosa

    Have you heard Please Hammer Don't Hurt 'Em?

    You havent.

  • May 29
    insertcoolnamehere

    You havent.

    Listening to it right now, actually

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    Aisosa

    If a Morgan Wallen album continues to be consistently listened to by a large number of people 5-plus years after its release, then it's definitely a classic.

    Your opinion about him sadly isn't weighty enough to overcome that particular metric.

    I disagree but I won’t argue your opinion bro.

  • hayabusa

    cracker thread

  • May 29
    Bmezy

    I disagree but I won’t argue your opinion bro.

    Agree to disagree, then

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    Nas & Em never made me feel what 4:44 did so thats the big deal lol

    I do think its annoying when people act like every rapper needs to copy the album though

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    GreenPointeGraham

    Yea, that's def wrong because Jay-Z made 2 collab albums with R. Kelly

    tf does that have to do anything
    what kinda snapple fact ass reply is this

  • May 29
    Prison Mike

    This guy said Jay Z finally made self reflective content

    Most people on here have only heard RD (maybe), Blueprint, Black Album, MCHG and WTT lol

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    One of the best rap albums I've ever heard and popularised this wave of rappers dropping "therapy" albums. I can't imagine enjoying rap and not appreciating this album at least just in terms of that

  • May 29
    mr get dough

    Nas & Em never made me feel what 4:44 did so thats the big deal lol

    I do think its annoying when people act like every rapper needs to copy the album though

    KD3 is something serious…

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    NICEMAN

    One of the best rap albums I've ever heard and popularised this wave of rappers dropping "therapy" albums. I can't imagine enjoying rap and not appreciating this album at least just in terms of that

    It didn't though? That was Recovery.

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    Aisosa

    It didn't though? That was Recovery.

    Just because he did it first doesn’t mean he’s the one who inspired people to do it

    Don’t think I’ve ever heard a single rapper list that album as inspiration

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    Aisosa

    It didn't though? That was Recovery.

    I said popularised, not started. Nobody looking at washed 2010s Eminem for inspiration

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    mr get dough

    Just because he did it first doesn’t mean he’s the one who inspired people to do it

    Don’t think I’ve ever heard a single rapper list that album as inspiration

    Oh, I haven't checked.

    Who's listed 4:44?

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    NICEMAN

    I said popularised, not started. Nobody looking at washed 2010s Eminem for inspiration

    So the more popular album by far did not popularize it.

    Lool, okay.

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    Aisosa

    Oh, I haven't checked.

    Who's listed 4:44?

    4:44 -> Melt My Eyez See Your Future, Mr Morale etc -> Chromokopia, It's Been Awful etc

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    Aisosa

    Oh, I haven't checked.

    Who's listed 4:44?

    Kendrick Lamar who went on to make Mr Morale

    Which led to tyler making chromakopia

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