Shady Ant

4mo

Yeah, I think he for sure influenced them.
Their early work are like continuations of Relapse, lol.
But even after that, I think that he is still an influence on their rapping mechanics. I feel like it’s almost impossible to not be influenced by someone you listened to that much at a formative age; and it’s confirmed they both listened to him like crazy when they were young

Elric

4mo

Not club music but I've seen parties go absolutely nuts when Without Me comes on. One of the most infectious flows out there, everybody can rap along.

DAVID P

4mo

I'm trying to find it but there's an interview where Tyler says that hailies song is a huge influence to him

Shady Ant

4mo

Really?
I thought I saw in an interview that he didn’t like that song, but he respected Em for doing it unabashedly. Maybe that’s what influenced him?

DAVID P

4mo

I need to find it but he said the Eminem show was a huge influence to him and he thought it was wild because he was basically a "cartoon character".

DAVID P

4mo

How is this song bad

Shady Ant

4mo

I believe that.
I got that Cherry Bomb magazine he gave to the members of his app (lol crazy time) and he also listed MMLP and Relapse as 2 of his favorite albums oat in it.
Honestly, with all of this, I really wish he and Em could just squash their beef. They both seem to think that they were out of line in hindsight (which they both were at different points), and they just seem like they’d be good friends. Idk

DAVID P

4mo

I think they squashed the beef. Em apologized and I think Tyler did too. I'm trying to find the interview where he says that "Eminem show" is a huge influence to him.

Snowboy

4mo

classic song but I can cherry pick the good songs off Relapse too

Shady Ant

4mo

I hope so. They are both top 10 all time artists for me, maybe even top 5

DAVID P

4mo

I'd say Em is in my personal top 10 OAT. but then again he's competing with Nas, Wayne, HOV. I do feel like he's up there tho and in the talks. I definitely listen to some of his songs weekly and he's got some s*** that f***ing hits hard. More relatable than s*** than Andre 3k would put out for example lol

Shady Ant

4mo

Yeah, for sure.
I f***ing love music; how someone as good as Em isn’t even guaranteed a top 10 spot because there’s so much other great stuff out there; it’s really special

Elric

4mo

2004-5

Did indeed go from making some of the best rap ever to some of the worst overnight

DAVID P

4mo

https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fexternal-preview.redd.it%2F9yrLeE64pdIZAhP2wgXA0-Qzj6BsTWN58O5YM1X8aoQ.jpg%3Fwidth%3D1080%26crop%3Dsmart%26auto%3Dwebp%26s%3De74de60eba03139da1768b39293ca8e43bc1bd58

Here's a pic of Tyler and he has relapse actually hung up in his studio .

JeffersonSteelflex

4mo

nah he was still the GOAT until 2012 when people got tired of his fanbase’s racism

Shady Ant

4mo

Hell yeah
I remember that home studio; was exactly the room my teenage self wanted when I grew up

DAVID P

4mo

Nah, he's been trying to perfect that for years, and he finally perfected it with Twisted Fantasy. Eminem: number 14…2002. It was supposed to originally come out in June, I think it came out May 26 because it leaked. The Eminem Show, number 14, “Hailie's Song.” He's singing on it. And, like, the hook is And sometimes, it feels like the world… Bro, that song is just the blueprint for the Recovery album.

https://www.gq.com/story/tyler-the-creator-gq-style-fall-cover-story

Shady Ant

4mo

Nice find

DAVID P

4mo

I need to find the interview on YouTube but Tyler literally shouts him out and says that Eminem show was super influential to his music...

If you listen some of his songs like answer you can definitely hear the influence

Shady Ant

4mo

Oh yeah. It might be a stretch, but I wonder if that had anything to do with Flower Boy too; both albums are just so raw and honest about the people who made them, even if there are less direct connections, I feel like they are very related in their core “soul”