Hadji, proper, Benny and Spice
If I like the sample who cares who you like?

There's no concrete rules obviously, although when sampling an obvious/popular song try to be creative about it, don't just ride off the love people already have for the song

It all depends, like incontinence underwear

I remember when A-Trak was stunned that Kanye was going to sample Daft Punk because he thought it was supposed to be taboo to sample something too obvious, although tbf Kanye's song used waaaay less of HBFS than HBFS used off Cola Bottle Baby (not that anything is wrong with it)

Sampling has a DJ aspect to it, curating rare lost minerals or just know when to play the right thing at the right time

No rules,

Although if I see a song heavily samples Hit Me Baby One More Time by Britney or Baby by Bieber i'll probably want them to use more ingenuity than if they sampled some out of print 70s soul record that made no buzz, so that they aren't riding off the love the original song has

Shameless rip-off

2021-23 was riddled with blatant y2k nostalgia bait it was nasty. Just 2000s rnb/pop samples with modern drums.

Some things are too obvious/popular to sample lazily (e.g. using a smash hit's famous chorus as your lazy chorus ahem Latto ' ' )

Crate Digger rules aren't the law but I see the logic
Dilla didn't want the Little Brother (Roy Ayers sample) beat to get out because it was already known as a sample Pete Rock used (in the crate digging circles). Questlove says he saw Dilla make it as practice/to see what he could do with it

Q-Tip, Juju & the others in that specific circle used to make it a point to crate dig, partially because a lot of filler beats were reusing the same legendary samples.

Things don't have to go too extreme in either direction imo, i shouldn't rely on popular R&B chorus or stuff from the beats & breaks volumes to flesh out my tracks
But I'll still use them Cold Grits or Synthetic Substitution etc. drums every now & then & if i want to sample Michael Jackson etc. I will be creative about it but also have fun

I think it’s bad when it’s the main draw of the song

A song should be able to stand on its own without saying “hey everyone look what I sampled!”

spiderman superman sampling the real her is cool

Execution and taste. Thirteen degrees does it perfectly for a good example. Bad example could be nine vicious

nine vicious is the bad example in my video actually. And thirteendegrees rocks

Pre made loop packs is the slopification of music especially Rap and can be compared in a way to AI with extra steps

I never liked pre made loops at all, even tho I make them myself to sell from time to time 🙃

if its a sample i can tell immediately especially if its some s*** thats not even a decade old i would say its pretty lazy. glad you mentioned nine vicious cos while i think his s*** is hard its pretty laughable how lazy ahmed pick and flips each sample

interpolation i feel is a case by case thing, like i think j cole recently did a pretty good one with elevators on the villest but also a really bad one with how its goin down lmao

Thought the way Eminem gave a nod to Drake on that Superman song was really cool

Some hypocrisy itt tho especially when talm bout "the new gen"

2010s was filled with simple samples and a lot of it was contemporary stuff just from other genre scenes (like electronic and indie rock) that Rap fans wouldn't be as familiar with such as Dreams Money Can Buy is a simple loop of Jai Paul who just dropped it a year prior, Schoolboy Q's Man of the Year with a very recent Beach House 3 year old song sample of a simple loop, JCole's She Knows is again a very simple loop of a The Cults song that came out two years prior etc.

I'm not even that big on Doechii but I actually think taking that Gotye sample self evidently had a lot of power tbh

it's funny that when she originally made it as a fun throwaway during Covid it was still too early and too cringe, the type of song that almost everyone could absolutely not hear anymore after being milked to s*** by the radio 10 years ago. but rappers since then have gotten a lot bolder with corny pop samples (def taking big influence from the EDM trend of pop edits), the culture around it changed and when they cleared it it was the perfect timing to make this overplayed melody a hit again

I don't love the song but I also don't think it's lazy bc she's actually expanding on the storytelling of the original and modernizing it, in terms of writing and rap it's solid craft. I don't really get the hate for not changing anything there's a long tradition with that in rap and rnb too, off top Frank singing on MGMT and The Eagles

well firstly, i think what matters alot is whether someone interprets it as an homage or a lazy rehash. This can be highly subjective i think. Perhaps what one person sees as an artist trying to get an easy hit for the charts, someone else might think theyre a true fan of the song and are trying to simply do their own version in a way.

What to me personally separates these two, is if the artist has advanced, progressed or truly made something new out of the original sample/interpolation. If the song doing the sampling is worse than the original, its hard to enjoy it. Now it doesnt necessarily have to be better, but if it isnt, then at the very least it should use have other elements in the song that make it different enough so as not to be able to compare the two.

As an example, Doechiis Anxiety missed the mark because theres almost nothing different going on in the instrumental, and even though her flow and lyrics are completely different, none of it really stands out so all anyone sees is a worse version of the original. Also her performance completely changes the tone of the original song and it just doesn't fit imo, because the instrumental is the same. If she wanted to go for a catchy bop, she shouldve switched up the beat or added something new. When it comes to sampling or interpolating, the less the audience is aware of the original the easier since they have nothing to compare it to.
Doechii essentially took on the gargantuan task of taking a beloved song and doing her own take, but without changing much, then we cannot help but compare the two versions and see how it falls short. Its not impossible to take a classic and sample it but to reiterate it has to be something different. Example: Kanye Good Life or Rihannas Dont Stop the Music. Both of these are imo not better than the original but it doesnt really matter and are still loved because they do something different and have a different vibe than the songs they sample

Niggas complaining over that feature is hilarious. I understand niggas not liking AI (majority of AI s*** is terrible) but the s*** is just a regular station that plays music.

I use it when I’m driving so I don’t be on my phone while driving. It’s just a shortcut for me. Any other time I don’t use it cause I get sick of the voice.

Nine vicious homage farming does sometimes feel like ragebait

I’m fine with not flipping tf out of a sample if it doesn’t need to be

Sometimes u find a pocket as is that’s just begging to be f***ed, and if it sounds tasteful and not like a remix or forced then it’s fire

On the other hand there’s a lot of s*** that’s clearly lazy and feels like it was sampled just for the sake of saying they sampled it. I feel this way about a few Nine Vicious songs

Also another that stuck out to me is WLR outro lol, niggas was gassing that s*** and it’s just bon iver looped over drums that don’t even fit it right, like cmon

But it’s really not hard to differentiate I feel like

I’m not mad at the U Fancy? sample though .. like that was okay Ifw that