amory

3y

talked about it in one of them threads but basically it’s because of his coming out letter and being in a generation where leftism is conflated with queerness

allmygirlsdoyoga

3y

Why are they both ignoring Kendall?

VeggieKubernetes

3y

Who said anything about stop addressing

You said only one side use racism

I say they both so. We need a third party (and a fourth)

MyBallsAndMyWord

3y

Yes I have literally said nothing to the contrary lol

DonutHole

3y

I've said that they "enable racism" and
"stokes the fire of white supremacy"

Democrats don't do that^ - pointing that out doesn't mean I'm defending democrats or any politicians lmao

This isn't even up for debate since academics agree and it's well documented history at this point

VeggieKubernetes

3y

The dnc absolutely enables racism and plays up division in order to leverage the black voting base

DonutHole

3y

Look up the "fox News effect"

DonutHole

3y

This is historically innacurate

Workers, students, activists in the 60s weren't paying 50k tuition and actually made progress

Historians already established that right wing media banked on white men's fear of progress (feminism, racial equality etc) to make them vote against their interest (socio-economic interests)

fashion killa

3y

right yes, black, working class ppl voting for biden over bernie has nothing to do with the fact that they were likely less informed than me or u when it came to bernie's actual platform.

left wing policy (not US democrat but actual real left wing policy) is for the working class, and those who are systematically oppressed. It's mostly pushed by ppl w college educations, etc. but that's bc they are more exposed to those concepts. A lot of americans have no idea what socialism really even means, and it's not bc they're stupid, they just don't ever really learn about it (unlike most college students).

Just because a lot of proponents of democratic socialism aren't working class doesn't mean it isn't a system designed for the working class. honestly, guys like biden (who are honestly just diet conservatives, in case u haven't noticed) are actually trying to take advantage of not so well off people. A lot of American clinton campaign biden 2020 type leftists are performance artists, buying into the same culture war bullshit republicans push. But i doubt thats what you were trying to say here.

also, what is that quote lmao. who do u think believes that? u can't seriously think that is the left's mission statement, right?

DonutHole

3y

"Yeah let's only discuss the lowest denominator of #BoThSiDes which is they're both bad! "

I'm not just talking about democrats (not leftists btw) vs Republicans

Leftists aren't out here fraternizing with neo-nazis/white supremacists

I guess that doesn't bother you in particular though

Please educate us on the failings of the left you deem to be equal to that of stoking white supremacist's fire

DonutHole

3y

I stated above that democrats aren't leftists... And that right wing media convinced people to vote against their interests

• leftists we're the first to tell y'all that politicians are corrupt

My entire point is one side uses racism/bigotry/ignorance to hinder progress ; the other one doesn't.

I'm not defending any politicians lmao

VeggieKubernetes

3y

Lol

So that doesn’t address my point:

If democrats champion the cause of the disenfranchised as opposed to using racism then why haven’t they addressed the most pressing issues?

Obama/Biden could at any point reschedule marijuana.

They could remove the FBI’s concurrent jurisdiction with the dea.

Keep it a buck,both parties are racist. One just leverages black people and tosses us aside until the next election.

Shout out Joe “If you don’t vote for me, you ain’t black” Biden 🤣

MyBallsAndMyWord

3y

Yes exactly. So they’re not leftists.

knockknockwhoitis

3y

so who is a leftist? lol AOC? who else?

MyBallsAndMyWord

3y

Actual socialists, communists, anarchists, etc.

AOC is a social Democrat

knockknockwhoitis

3y

gotcha. well very weird that people would expect a millionaire R&B singer to be any of those things

Chapo Trap House makes 160k / month on Patreon. Your favorite left wing / socialist twitch streamer just bought a 3 million dollar house in LA

these people are playing you

knockknockwhoitis

3y

first of all, I'm black. also PLEASE FOR THE LOVE OF GOD REREAD YOUR FIRST PARAGRAPH

"Have tou stopped to consider that black people are actually just dumb???" is literally your defense of leftism lol. this modern lefty s*** of treating black people like idiots is insane

fashion killa

3y

no how abt u reread that s***

most voters are uninformed. not just black ppl i mean literally everyone.

saying a candidate is obviously better for black ppl bc they voted for him is dumb. the general consensus is usually stupid and isn't something to appeal to

knockknockwhoitis

3y

"most voters are uninformed, but apropos of nothing, black people are obviously more uninformed and that's why"

black people, especially old black people, are pretty conservative. have you listened to one of Boosie's IG lives???

DonutHole

3y

@knockknockwhoitis
You won, I can't argue against ignorance this long

PEACEFUL HARMONY

3y

Nigga boosie is 34 and just ignorant f*** u talking about