you making it seem like im treating bro like a scrub or sumn

i said hes top 20-30 thats a great spot to be in

And ALC DOES HIS OWN DRUMS 90 PERCENT OF THE TIME

catching the end of a loop is WAY easier than u r making it out to be okay

sampling is not that hard

if ur not getting creative, mixing samples n chopping s*** up, then literally the only actually challenging aspect is the crate digging.

now i agree, alchemist is good at crate digging. but i dont think just being good at crate digging is enough to put u in top 5 contention when there's guys who can blow u out of the water w stuff made completely from scratch

Most yall treating him like a newbaby & playing on his history like crazy only paying attention to his "reddit era" when he been througho forreal n put the mixtape game on his back

Recency bias? Bruh been producing hard ass beats since the late 90s lmao

His beats on Rare Chandeliers are amongst top tier in his field & most of them are more in depth then just loops, plus he does his own drums.

You also have to find the tempo of the sample which imo is the hardest part.

And i disagree, ive seen niggas on youtube that were challenged to make beats "the old way" from mass appeal n s*** n they fumble hard.

But yeah i disagree, but even then most his s*** is beyond only loops anyways.

yeah and he does this because he knows that the only truly difficult part of sampling is finding the samples, not actually flipping the samples. if any other producer gets to those samples before he does he won't be able to make something that stands apart from the other guy's beat. because flipping samples isn't as nuanced or challenging as mfs make it out to be

Alchemist a top 20-30 producer...it's gotta be crack, meth, or d*** being smoked.

youre tweaking

u cannot be serious right now

u cant be trynna tell me that finding the tempo of a sample is challenging. with modern daws? are u kidding?

the only way it's challenging is if ur musically retarded

@Killa_K post some of your beats then if flipping samples isnt difficult

POST BEATS NIGGA

Yeah i agree lol

From personal experience i make my beats from scratch and i know music theory

But i suck d*** at sample based s***

fl studio literally makes chords for u and once u have chords you can step sequence a melody

you can make an entire beat without touching your keyboard once

Most them niggas are still using MPCs to this day

All my beats i make are legitimately from scratch lol dont play with my music incline ability, but im not gonna downplay one technique to big up another

Getting a perfect loop or knowing what section is good to be rapped or how to manipulate it is something most dont auto know

ok

man what

fl studio does not "make chords for u" idek what ur referring to

is he trying to say clicking in notes is somehow worse than using a midi keyboard

well aware but lets not act like op didnt make the thread cause of his recent run lol

u can literally stamp major, minor, 7th chords in fl

?

whats ur point

so what lol

if u think the impressive part of making ur own melodies and harmonies is knowing what a seventh chord is ur lost

Theres a thing in modern FL AI that literally creates "music correct" chords based off whatever ur playing too lol.

Its dope n helpful for more advance producers, but in general anyone can make at least a basic beat now with that.

none of these are particularly flips lmao

again what is ur point

do u guys think im saying anyone who makes their s*** w vsts is better than anyone who uses samples

dilla and nujabes are in my top 5 all time 🤷‍♂️

u can be an extremely skilled sample based producer the same way u can be an extremely skilled vst producer.

im saying alc doesn't have anything that's impressed me the same way dilla or nujabes have

yeah they aren't that's my point

and also that's not even true lmao listen to the one w the off white brick for example there's plenty of chopping going on there