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  • Apr 2, 2022
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    fashion killa

    again what is ur point

    do u guys think im saying anyone who makes their s*** w vsts is better than anyone who uses samples

    dilla and nujabes are in my top 5 all time 🤷‍♂️

    u can be an extremely skilled sample based producer the same way u can be an extremely skilled vst producer.

    im saying alc doesn't have anything that's impressed me the same way dilla or nujabes have

    Well just as easy as it might be to simply loop then throw a snare over you can also make a 4 bar up n down chord change n throw snares over that the program literally guides you now lol

    Was just adding onto what he was saying because it goes even deeper than what he mentioned 💀💀

  • Apr 2, 2022
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    Water Giver

    Well just as easy as it might be to simply loop then throw a snare over you can also make a 4 bar up n down chord change n throw snares over that the program literally guides you now lol

    Was just adding onto what he was saying because it goes even deeper than what he mentioned 💀💀

    with the first part of ur post

    do u think i don't agree? do u not understand that the guys im talking abt (benjicold, goyxrd, etc) are so good because they make s*** u cant do with just simple up and down chords or whatever auto chord s*** u guys r talking abt

  • Apr 2, 2022
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    fashion killa

    with the first part of ur post

    do u think i don't agree? do u not understand that the guys im talking abt (benjicold, goyxrd, etc) are so good because they make s*** u cant do with just simple up and down chords or whatever auto chord s*** u guys r talking abt

    I was JUST ADDING onto what he was saying on how simple you can make beats in daws & i never once said anything about them niggas bro

    But its basically what you said about "lol just loop sample then theres an Alc beat" which also isnt true & is the vice versa of what he said

  • Apr 2, 2022
    Water Giver

    I was JUST ADDING onto what he was saying on how simple you can make beats in daws & i never once said anything about them niggas bro

    But its basically what you said about "lol just loop sample then theres an Alc beat" which also isnt true & is the vice versa of what he said

    a LOT of alc beats are just loops no chops

    that's fine but it means im not putting him in my top 5

  • Apr 2, 2022
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    fashion killa

    yeah and he does this because he knows that the only truly difficult part of sampling is finding the samples, not actually flipping the samples. if any other producer gets to those samples before he does he won't be able to make something that stands apart from the other guy's beat. because flipping samples isn't as nuanced or challenging as mfs make it out to be

    I just asked my brother who produces and he disagrees lol.

    He said finding the sample a lot of times is the easy part.

  • fashion killa

    that's not saying i dont think there's good alchemist beats btw i mean there's plenty alchemist songs i actually like a lot. It's just usually these are staight loops, literally not even a single chop, and nothing interesting is going on w the drums either.

    I cant say he's a bad producer but i realllly dont think hes in the top 5 at all

    People on ktt2 d*** ride them slow sample beats. And thinks anyone who doesn't use those beats has bad production.

  • Apr 2, 2022
    Whippey

    I just asked my brother who produces and he disagrees lol.

    He said finding the sample a lot of times is the easy part.

    thats great but as someone who also produces i disagree

  • Apr 2, 2022
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    Top 1

    Only 1 that’s close is 93-95 RZA

  • Apr 2, 2022
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    ItsJustShawn

    Top 1

    Only 1 that’s close is 93-95 RZA

    name his top 10 beats.

  • Apr 2, 2022
    Dedication 666

    name his top 10 beats.

    I don’t have a top 10, but I can give you at least 10 that have made me go “what the f***

    Sensational Sherri - Westside Gunn
    Dean Martin Steaks - Roc Marciano
    Universal Studios - Wiz Khalifa
    Location Remote - Freddie Gibbs & Curren$y
    Ventilation - Curren$y
    Nobles - Earl Sweatshirt & Navy Blue (that f***in outro…)
    Billy Joe - Benny the Butcher
    All Glass - Freddie Gibbs
    Piano Love - Conway the Machine
    Double Hockey Sticks - Boldy James
    Break the Bank - Schoolboy Q
    Trap Door - Joey Bada$$
    We Gonna Make It - Jadakiss
    Lucha Bros - Westside Gunn
    Mac 10 Wounds - Conway
    Summer Nights - Boldy James

    I can do this all day

  • He's not on the list

  • Jake One > Alch

  • Apr 2, 2022
    hayabusa

    lil bit of recency bias going on itt cause of his run now but hes really good. id say like top 20-30

  • Apr 2, 2022

    If we talking underground rap he is top 3 of all time

    Now, if we are talking mainstream producers he isn’t up there, he lacks the versatility and the hits.

  • Apr 2, 2022
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    hayabusa

    lil bit of recency bias going on itt cause of his run now but hes really good. id say like top 20-30

    Not at all.

    Covert Coup, Rare Chandeliers and No Idols have been out for a decade+ and have aged with grace.

  • Apr 2, 2022

    top 10

  • Apr 2, 2022

    honestly not that high for me

  • Apr 2, 2022
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    hayabusa

    lil bit of recency bias going on itt cause of his run now but hes really good. id say like top 20-30

    hes been making great beats since the infamous my mobb deep, unofficial third member. Early 10s he did all that curren$y, action bronson, great songs with schoolboy, he did jada and wayne songs like this man has been a legend for a while its just now his NAME is bigger than ever

  • Apr 2, 2022

    the man produced keep it thoro

  • Apr 2, 2022

    discrediting a producer because his s*** is mainly sample based is very stupid especially as a producer myself, alc does a lot of interesting s*** most of the time with it anyway and looping is an art in itself, Madlib is still one of the greatest and hes known as the loop digga

  • Apr 2, 2022
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    ItsJustShawn

    Not at all.

    Covert Coup, Rare Chandeliers and No Idols have been out for a decade+ and have aged with grace.

    thats not enough to put him in top 10

  • Apr 2, 2022
    coke n whyt btchs

    Sure you could say metro or timbo or blaze but alc has been making sheer quality for two decades without a miss

    Encompassing sounds and emotional across the spectrum

    Across the spectrum is overstated

    He has a certain sound he tends to stick to

  • Apr 2, 2022
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    Andre Jaquet

    hes been making great beats since the infamous my mobb deep, unofficial third member. Early 10s he did all that curren$y, action bronson, great songs with schoolboy, he did jada and wayne songs like this man has been a legend for a while its just now his NAME is bigger than ever

    again im not dismissing his old s*** even with those projects considered theres still plenty of producers id put over him

  • Apr 2, 2022
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    hayabusa

    again im not dismissing his old s*** even with those projects considered theres still plenty of producers id put over him

    im putting him top 10. You can say that for any producer cuz no one is undebatably the best yfm. That longevity, consistency and quality is damn near unmatched