He’s been consistently at the top or around the top for over 20 years I mean I don’t even understand the logic behind people trying to discredit him. He’s about as objective as you can get to declare someone as the GOAT

20+ years in and he’s dropping heat like 444

f*** drake

On god, it's off the head this improv
But it's no comedy
Sign I fail (seinfeld), hell naw

People who started listening to hip hop in 2005

Being good in your prime doesn't mean consistent lol

Being productive doesn't make you consistent.

Swear dudes are gaslighting me

He’s consistently mid

jay goat

Because I don't fetishize numbers like I'm his manager? When you call an artist consistent, everybody knows what you mean. You just said you knew what I mean. Stop being ignorant.

The people

So we agree. He's not consistent quality wise. Quantity wise, sure. He moves units. Glad we had this convo.

Jay is the GOAT by default. He may not be #1 in any of the most important criteria but he's the only rapper in history who's top three in ALL of the most important criteria. No other GOAT has that.

That's why Jay is the most widely accepted GOAT

And yet when you call somebody consistent, the meaning is ubiquitous.

Jay Z

It was clear what he meant you weirdo

I actually wanna get into this lol

Think about what the most important criteria is:

• lyricism & songwriting
• rapping ability & voice
• discog (albums and hits)
• quotables
• presence (impact/influence falls under)
• consistency (also longevity)

And look at the most widely accepted top 3 in each category. Jay's name is the ONLY name shows up in every category (Biggie would be #1 if longevity wasn't important)

no

Wym no

I don't agree

That's cool I'm just telling you the consensus and logic behind jay being considered the GOAT