her songwriting is very finely developed for someone her age, she can simultaneously tell you personal anecdotes while making it relatable for the common high school girl with a wealth of clever metaphors and hooks scattered in most of the songs. (not too dissimilar to some of Lorde's pen on Melodrama, if you ask me, but they're still worlds removed)

she captures the teenage angst perfectly on songs such as brutal and the perils of relationship troubles on deja vu, 1 step forward or good 4 u and she again, simultaneously weaves her own personal stories and battles with it while making it relatable to literally anyone around her age, a pen already that matured is VERY promising.

it's a great album.

IT CHARTED AT 85

YEAT OUTSOLD THAT MAN

I mean if it was music that palatable and the least challenging to/for an older mostly white audience...why did Tony Bennett and Lady Gaga not win the Grammy with that album full of showtune/swing/big band ass music? S***, even Taylor Swift made something that'd get the old crackers lit, Evermore was a folk/country/alt-rock album. Those old cacs at the Grammy committee go nuts for that s***, you remember the whole Beck Morning Phases Grammy win?

I just don't buy that because he gotta CBS contract that is the reason why Jon Batiste won. I'm pretty sure Taylor Swift and someone as legendary as Tony Bennett (who is on the way out respectfully) would realistically supersede that.

You people are a lost cause

Remember when Diary of Alicia Keys, Confessions, American Idiot, AND The College Dropout lost to a Ray Charles posthumous album?? This like that except Jon ain't no Ray Charles and is still alive.

In 2015, Beck did a similar snub. At least he sold 87,000 in its first week

Bruh how do you not get how award shows work

Theres a reason why dudes like Mach Hommy, Billy Woods, Ka, etc arent at the Grammys because it is about COMMERCIAL SUCCESS as well as CRITICAL

The album flopping is genuine criticism for it to not deserve aoty

yeaaaaaaaaaa end of the day that award show was horrible and i'm glad i have stopped watching most if not all award shows

the red carpet better in all actuality. see whos there and what the fits lookin like

like the s*** is just so f***ing corny to me and now these niggas care about jazz and that he's a real musician that plays instruments

please get the f*** out of here with that stupid ass s*** man

I can't even find first week sales numbers at all rn. Can you find any concrete numbers lol?

Its like crying about a shoestring budget indie film not making it to the oscars

Nigga these awards are about commercial and critical success

That has NEVER been disputed

It's interesting how folks often complain that these awards are dominated by the big names and when a relatively unknown artist wins they against it. Not saying that the big names shouldn't win or that the unknowns should simply because of that, but it's just cool to see someone like Jon Batiste take it home. The winner should be based of the quality of the music, period

Like I'm saying man

I think we can all agree that he probably should not have won AOTY and there are other albums you can make a much stronger case for. But all the s*** I been seeing itt discrediting him as an artist is just mad weird and honestly not even necessary

You got cacs itt pretty much calling dude a coon and his album a minstrel show...like the f*** is going on lmao

because he's a magical black guy that plays instruments, he's the perfect token in one package

you can't claim racism because he's black and won, and he's also a fancy musician, so that gratifies the old dude types who feel like hip hop and pop is a lesser art in comparison to something like jazz (which they obviously f***ing do)

Are you a musician? Do you play an instrument? Why are you so hell bent on s***ting on a black man who’s putting work in for over 20 years? And then coming in and caping for white industry plants saying the deserved it more go to hell

And From that one song he played s*** sounded like Diet Pharrell

Ill take Sour or Billie Bossa Nova over that s*** lmao

Again you did NOT listen to the album!!!

There is hip hop all over the album!!!

He literally raps on it!!!

yall are so determined to make everything a race issue

yeah i sing, play piano, and make beats... are you a musician dude?

and uh, industry plants or not, their music is good. kind of an odd critique man

Considering the post that sparked the convo was someone calling his music a “minstrel show” I’m gonna go ahead and say it’s entirely a race thing

he wishes i was white so he could pull that stupid ass card stupid ass nigga

i cant stand identity politic niggas man i really cant

the people caping for SOUR is so funny. we have taylor swift at home!

obviously doja + planet her should have swept as it was the best and it was commercially successful. thx