ok cool, it's a good album. but I'm failing to see what's so innovative and refreshing

If yall cared so much abt this black man then whyd the album flop

these dumbass niggas will literally stan the most milquetoast of hip hop artists that don't know any music theory or play any instruments, and call them GOAT or musical legends, (and im not even f***ing saying you need to know music theory or how to play instruments to be considered that, but to switch narratives NOW? ) but when this random dude who beats out pop artists they hold some weird misplaced personal disdain for, all of the sudden actual musicianship matters and we all need to come around the fire as black people and sing Kumbaya

you niggas don't deserve ears at all

Bruh really calling this man a magical piano playing negro for winning a Grammy...

Again PLEASE read this thread so you'd actually understand why this discussion is even happening. Nobody is "claiming racism because he's Black and won". Many people itt are saying he didn't really deserve it. S***, even I said Planet Her likely should've won over it. We're claiming racism cause there's a white dude itt who pretty much called him minstrel show coon who made an album without thoughtful or resonating music compared to prototypical teenage angst from Olivia Rodrigo

coming for the EGOT

no one has written songs so densely packed with personality and effortlessly expressing teenage angst with minimal pitfalls in a very long time, that's what i mean by refreshing.

if you mean groundbreaking in terms of the actual music, then no, it obviously isn't a sonically innovative masterpiece like The Velvet Underground or something of that ilk.

LMFAOOOOOOO

I’m out man

Niggas caping now but wasnt streaming the album Performative ass niggas

okay, and im saying some of the niggas itt don't actually care about jazz or actual musicianship. they care now because they beat some white pop singers they have a weird hate boner for.

I’m not hating on Olivia and Billie SOUR was one of my favorite album of the year but you are just theeeee most hypocritical person I’ve ever come across on this website and talking with you is like being gaslit by some random dude on the street lmfao worst part is I really don’t think you see it either

Just remember this thread the next time one of these dudes is crying in a music section thread about charts and numbers wondering what happened to music discussion

this reminds me when Danny Brown released uknowhatimsayin after all these niggas were straight gassing him the f*** up as this groundbreaking innovative genius who deserves our support, and his album pushed 4K first week it's almost like niggas PRETEND to care about music, who would've thought right?

how hard is it to understand i see who won and go really? of all we've produced that who y'all finally recognize? stop being obtuse nigga

say it louder

NIGGA YOU'RE IN HERE TRYING TO PUSH PRO BLACK RHETORIC OVER DISCUSSING ANY OF THE ACTUAL F***ING MUSIC LIKE ARE YOU KIDDING ME

I CANNOT

same over here he itching. misunderstanding basic statements but scramblin now he don't have one in his back pocket

Y’all caring to much about the Grammies that don’t matter

Or do they not matter only when someone y’all don’t like wins?

@hanshan i tried 20 minutes ago but look no one gave a s*** and wanted to talk about who deserved or not

Suck my d*** disrespectfully

Grammys dont matter for hip hop imo but this is pop music we talking about

this is such a stupid take lol if my album sold 4k copies that means it had 6mil streams the first week.(no physical copies)

So for a 15 track album thats 400k streams per track.
Thats a lot of unique listeners who can give their opinion on the album so who gives a s*** how much it sold

I mean Danny Brown has just never sold well. Doesn't mean he don't drop great albums. Atrocity Exhibition is often put on the same level as XXX if not higher and it only sold 7K first week. His best selling album is still Old at just 15k first week, and much of that came as a result of him going more EDM.

Great albums can still be great regardless of their sales. The fact that these albums still hung around and get play on DSPs show that good music lasts.

nigga sprinkling water on a forest fire he started months ago talm bout look guys i did my bit

that isn't my point. my point is that you are not going to sit here and cap and be performative about actually wanting "real" art to win and then not even go f***ing support the music. that s*** is CORNY.

this nigga Danny literally bankrupted his label and busted his ass making Atrocity Exhibition and that s*** even flew under the f***ing radar until it finally got the recognition it deserved a couple years later

i do not respect people who pretend to be supportive of s*** that they actually do not f***ing care about. it's a pet peeve, and i see it on here ALL the time