Dec 8, 2021·2 replies
SERENITYhe said drake too lol
For those asking about T-Pain, I'll explain:
T-Pain had popularity before Kanye yes. Much like how 2pac had success without Dre but catapulted his success off California Love. My argument is that T-Pain remained culturally relevant thanks to the success of Good Life.
As for Drake, c'mon man. Drake had some hype here in Toronto but it was a big deal that he got production from Kanye West on his debut. And Kanye basically made being sensitive in hip hop okay (ie. Graduation vs Curtis), especially since Drake was his most emo in the early stages of his career.
Dec 8, 2021Meme thread
Dec 8, 2021
RIP PRINCEwhy is dis a thread when we kno da answer already jitling @op
the answer is the first letter in ktt
“Jitling” 😭
- Dec 8, 2021·1 replyChronoLeopard
For those asking about T-Pain, I'll explain:
T-Pain had popularity before Kanye yes. Much like how 2pac had success without Dre but catapulted his success off California Love. My argument is that T-Pain remained culturally relevant thanks to the success of Good Life.
As for Drake, c'mon man. Drake had some hype here in Toronto but it was a big deal that he got production from Kanye West on his debut. And Kanye basically made being sensitive in hip hop okay (ie. Graduation vs Curtis), especially since Drake was his most emo in the early stages of his career.
some hype in toronto? best i ever had was the #2 song in the country lmfao
- Dec 8, 2021·1 replyChronoLeopard
I've been recently reading 3 Kings, which essentially follows the rise of Dr. Dre, Jay-Z, and Diddy.
Dr. Dre being the oldest of the three was particularly fascinating to me once we put into perspective that there would be no NWA or Death Row without him.
He essentially helped introduce; Ice Cube, Snoop Dogg, 2pac, Eminem, 50 Cent, and even Anderson .Paak to the public consciousness.
Yes, these artists had some degree of success already without him but he essentially catapulted these dudes into upper echelons of rap with the exception of Ice Cube who left NWA and started his solo career.
On the production side of things, Dre went from making sparse almost lo-fi beats, to G-funk, to the Shady/G-Unit era production of the naughties.
Compare that to Kanye West.
Kanye rose from a relatively unknown producer, to working on The Blueprint and helped Jay-Z reinvent himself. Then he helped popularize the chipmunk soul sound. Then he started an incredible run as a solo artist with breakthrough songs like Through the Wire and Jesus Walks that shouldn't have worked but did.
Then he evolved as time went on and got more commercially successfully. He helped put on Kid Cudi, Drake, Desiigner (lol), Travis Scott and I would argue even T-Pain.
On Donda, he's taken current artists like Lil Durk, Fivio Foreign, and Lil Yachty and made them sound like the best version of themselves.
So ultimately who is the better producer? And why?
“….to the Shady/G-Unit era production of the naughties.“
“the naughties”
Dec 8, 2021The chipmunk sound was already popular through RZA.
Dec 8, 2021·2 repliesFam T-Pain had Buy U A Drank and Bartender in 07, “remained culturally relevant thanks to the success of Good Life”
- Dec 8, 2021
Kanye literally bit the drums off of Xplosive to make This Cant Be Life
- Dec 8, 2021·1 reply
T pain was never even close to being as big as Kanye. Again, stop talking about rap music dude
- Dec 8, 2021·2 replies
2005
Rappa turnt Sanga 47k
Late Registration 860k2007
Epiphany 170k
Graduation 950k2008
3 rings 167k
808s 450kExactly which year was he arguably bigger than Kanye. Crazy how you’re a mod but consistently troll and display a lack of knowledge about the culture
- Dec 8, 2021·1 replySaintJitterxburgFL
“….to the Shady/G-Unit era production of the naughties.“
“the naughties”
Okay. You got me, it's noughties.
- Dec 8, 2021·1 reply
Bro live in a cornfield don’t take his opinions srs lol
- garetare ✅Dec 8, 2021
this thread is for me
- Dec 8, 2021·1 reply
That’s not what you said though is it?
- Dec 8, 2021SERENITY
some hype in toronto? best i ever had was the #2 song in the country lmfao
Yes. But he wasn't widely accepted yet. There was literally a push from Canadians who were incentivized to buy more copies of the album because it finally legitimized the Toronto rap music scene in the US.
We were close so many times, and finally with Drake the dam burst.
Dec 8, 2021T-Pain was already huge before good life. Having him as a collab (just like Akon) was guaranteed gold in the late 00s.
- Dec 8, 20211887
Bro live in a cornfield don’t take his opinions srs lol
I live in a city on the east coast. Idk why you think I live in rural middle America
- garetare ✅Dec 8, 20211887
Dre easily. Ye produces with others
- Dec 8, 2021
dre always had other people around, to the point where we don't even know if he even ever really produced
ye has solo credits on classic records.
- Dec 8, 2021
Kanye kept evolving , experimenting with different sounds. He's surpassed every producer that was at his level. I would love to see where J. Dilla had taken his sound if he was still with us. He is the goat , then kanye at #2.