Reformed

5y

Drake killed hip hop

artists used to put a lot more effort and experiment more on music

than Drake just comes in making the most generic music imaginable and kills. Taught rappers to never try again.

jackweb

5y

There’s a portion of this site that I’m talking about obviously not all members but I’m talking people who make complaint threads on the daily

Bobby_96

5y

50 Cent and Jay-Z popularized it.

Jay stans kept using sales and hits as a way for not accepting his L with Nas.

And he made the phrase "Men lie, women lie, numbers don't " famous, which was ironically a sub at 50

And 50 blew up making quoting Soundscan numbers and would make videos like this:

Then, when 50 lost to Kanye, people started to see sales as an indication of what direction rap was headed since rap really did change after Kanye won.

Hip Hop never been the same since.

Cam Skattebo Fan

5y

https://ktt2.com/sam-gellaitry-duo-album-soon-120531

https://ktt2.com/dah-x-zelooperz-unconditional-prod-black-noie-124206

https://ktt2.com/pink-siifu-numbers-on-yo-head-w-billy-woods-prod-nicholas-124200

https://ktt2.com/yall-better-listen-to-this-new-akai-solo-album-44-minutes-of-124124

https://ktt2.com/official-oaf1-thread-117676

This was off the front page alone

Bobby_96

5y

50 Cent and Jay-Z popularized it.

Jay stans kept using sales and hits as a way for not accepting his L with Nas.

And he made the phrase "Men lie, women lie, numbers don't " famous, which was ironically a sub at 50

And 50 blew up making quoting Soundscan numbers and would make videos like this:

Then, when 50 lost to Kanye, people started to see sales as an indication of what direction rap was headed since rap really did change after Kanye won.

Hip Hop never been the same since.

NewCopeJustDropped

5y

Drake and Eminem stans who cant defend mid albums

Cam Skattebo Fan

5y

Bro look at any of the “___’s music thread” and you’ll see that’s not true. Plenty of people posting and talking about non top 40 s*** y’all just have selective vision or some s***

VALERIE1

5y

i just wanna know how drake is generic

Heatwaves

5y

none of them made it past 2 pages and im literally in half of these threads. ur not making the point you think you're making here

VALERIE1

5y

i just wanna know how drake is generic

Reformed

5y

hows he not generic? Man started his career tryna just make watered down 808s Kanye stuff, then tried to hybridize it with washed Wayne stuff. Then he just tried to sound like a more boring Future with SFTB. Then he just tried to make the most boring version of dancehall stuff imaginable (borderline made Popcaan someone worth listening to instead)

now he just copy whatever trend is popping

Reformed

5y

hows he not generic? Man started his career tryna just make watered down 808s Kanye stuff, then tried to hybridize it with washed Wayne stuff. Then he just tried to sound like a more boring Future with SFTB. Then he just tried to make the most boring version of dancehall stuff imaginable (borderline made Popcaan someone worth listening to instead)

now he just copy whatever trend is popping

VALERIE1

5y

stopped reading at watered down 808s you clearly don't listen to drake

Reformed

5y

hows he not generic? Man started his career tryna just make watered down 808s Kanye stuff, then tried to hybridize it with washed Wayne stuff. Then he just tried to sound like a more boring Future with SFTB. Then he just tried to make the most boring version of dancehall stuff imaginable (borderline made Popcaan someone worth listening to instead)

now he just copy whatever trend is popping

Cole2

5y

The 50 vs Kanye sales competition narrative that was pushed for Grad v Curtis definitely was a tipping point

jackweb

5y

Did you hide your top artists so no one can roast you for them?

insertcoolnamehere

5y

If all this was the case, Jadakiss would've never had a career.

To be one of the rappers who's prime was in an era that literally anybody and they mama was getting a platinum album (Even f***ing Tony Yayo). If that mattered, how come rappers that barely was going gold in that era still had careers?

insertcoolnamehere

5y

See @Reformed is an actual Drake hater. lol.

I just said stans obsession with his sales numbers thread.

My mans never listened to So Far Gone before.

Heatwaves

5y

none of them made it past 2 pages and im literally in half of these threads. ur not making the point you think you're making here

Reformed

5y

haven't filled em out yet

El Nigga

5y

It's weird cause other than pop, don't think any other genre has ever been as concerned/focused on sales as internet rap fans have been last 5-6 years. I've never heard any rock fan tell me anything about sales. Don't recall any hip hop conversation, other than Grad vs Curtis, being about sales until last 5-6 years. Even my local latin music, they brag about sales but fans don't talk about that unless they're super stans. Now a days you get into arguments over who's better in rap and stans bring out sales numbers