Yeah cause sales and dance moves means he’s more influential? Shut up.
You would never tell me to shut up in person you p**** ass nigga
correct reasonable arguments or just what they would say in general? because im sure a lot of people would just call him a pedo or something too
people that denigrate pop music in general or think it's all corporate bullshit that left a bad mark on music as a whole would probably prefer Bob Dylan's influence over MJ. they might call him just some guy who was uber famous for singing and dancing catching songs vs. Dylan giving more of a serious literary-like sensibility to the art form of popular music and contributing to the civil rights movement
(again, i'm not saying i share that opinion lol)
"correct reasonable arguments"
I only wanna hear the reasonable arguments tbh
are there more? (or is the last paragraph their reasonable argument)
No, some of you are just quite clearly ignorant to the past
Regardless if Bob had any huge impact in the past, MJ name holds more weight even in 2021 then Bob Dylan.
I can guarantee you’ll find more people who know who MJ is than people who know who Bob Dylan is WORLDWIDE.
That’s definitely apart of it when you’re specifying CULTURAL impact on which niggas are itt saying, the people dictate culture
Plus Mj influenced so many musicians too and could hold his own w anyone in that convo
I mean I agree that MJ is more influential, but your arguments are all ass lmao.
Y'all are mistaking more popular for more influential
When artists say they want to say they want to be "like Mike" they're speaking to how big and loved he was as an artist. That's popularity.
Regardless if Bob had any huge impact in the past, MJ name holds more weight even in 2021 then Bob Dylan.
I can guarantee you’ll find more people who know who MJ is than people who know who Bob Dylan is WORLDWIDE.
We’ve established mj is more popular. He’s an icon that will be too 5 in music forever. That does not mean he is more influential.
I mean I agree that MJ is more influential, but your arguments are all ass lmao.
That’s not even an argument I’m literally responding to a point that another poster brought up and explaining how that factors into the conversation of cultural impact
yes, Michael Jackson was more popular and no one is denying that
but it's possible for a song like Blowin in the Wind to be more influential/significant to the world compared to some MJ hits even though the MJ hits were obviously heard millions more times
They are never gonna understand this
Both very influential..
I’d say it’s Bob, However, the ways in which these two artists influenced both music and popular culture are so astronomically different it's a toss up for what you value i guess.
Mj did not have a cultural impact as big as Dylan and if you say otherwise you don’t know what you’re talking about.
Can you explain this
this isnt the gotcha moment you think it is im showing that people dont clown mj and still listen to his stuff today
Ok for some reason I thought the thread would be discussing the question in the title lol
Ok for some reason I thought the thread would be discussing the question in the title lol
thats the convo they had a page back and im just adding to it ofc
Mj did not have a cultural impact as big as Dylan and if you say otherwise you don’t know what you’re talking about.
You have no idea what you're talking about.
You have no idea what you're talking about.
Where's that picture of spiderman pointing at himself
Mj did not have a cultural impact as big as Dylan and if you say otherwise you don’t know what you’re talking about.
surprisingly, youre both right
mj is definitely more popular everywhere outside of the US (russia, japan, etc.) while Dylan influenced the American music Industry from within and that impact can be seen in the dominance of the us pop culture worldwide
Can you explain this
Bob Dylan was everywhere in the underground and in the mainstream not only in the music scene but the arts too.
The man was around and influencing the Beatles, he was in nyc with Ginsberg and Keurac and the beats, the hippies loved him, he was around the cbgb scene, Patti smith, Andy Warhol, he played for black peoples back in the 60s which was a big f***ing deal, he was on we are the world, and he wrote blowing in the wind which is still very big today
surprisingly, youre both right
mj is definitely more popular everywhere outside of the US (russia, japan, etc.) while Dylan influenced the American music Industry from within and that impact can be seen in the dominance of the us pop culture worldwide
Uhm. Stop lol. This isn't true.