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  • Nov 28, 2023
    p r o v i d e r

    What of the artist sacrificing their own vision for the sake of the listener's enjoyment?

    You mentioned you're an artist yourself, what if those 3, 4, 5 records that a portion of the listeners (because it's never all) deemed unnecessary felt essential to you in completing your work?

    An artist should never sacrifice anything for the listener.

    Most of the time, audiences don’t even know what they truly want from an artist, and a collective audience will never all want the same thing so it’s futile to pander to them.

  • Nov 28, 2023
    shaleirose

    In conjunction with albums being too long, I believe the beat switch trend has been the direct result of short attention spans because of social media.

    What was once a cool, niche way to make a song more interesting and surprise the listener has now become a cheap gimmick in order to pad a song’s runtime and essentially build out a song without actually having to progress it

    oh yea this might have to be a video for me lmaoo ive thought the same thing

  • Nov 28, 2023
    p r o v i d e r

    What of the artist sacrificing their own vision for the sake of the listener's enjoyment?

    You mentioned you're an artist yourself, what if those 3, 4, 5 records that a portion of the listeners (because it's never all) deemed unnecessary felt essential to you in completing your work?

    its an interesting point. youre never gonna please everyone. as an artist i actually want to drop like everything because i love getting the positive dopamine rush of people liking and listening and stuff. but i (and those around me) help remind me that to give my music the best shot i gotta package it the right way. and the more u do that, the more u come to appreciate that process

    i grew up on the gambino - bti era and s*** so i love world building. it can be hard without the built in fanbase. but ive made deliberate decisions to try and make my projects more cohesive. plus when theyre shorter and im saving stuff to be loosies / parts of other projects, i can drop more frequently which in todays attention economy is pretty valuable

  • Nov 28, 2023
    PushaToThe

    artists are also making 2 minute songs cause 90 seconds is like the minimum amount of seconds for a stream to count

    I think sales should count in streamed minutes and not in streamed amount of songs

    think its only 35 seconds actually but idk

  • Nov 28, 2023
    Jim Halpert

    i think both of those albums are great.

    dont really know what i would take off of either. but i get your point

    actually with both of those albums for me its not songs i would delete necessarily but songs i would trim, i think some could either be shorter, have a little more production variation, or just be organized differently- and the biggest point in that is that for both of those albums the artists were working on them until they came out. if they lived w the projects a little more i bet they’d have made some changes for the better

    for example i think on all the parties drake cuts to the beat switch too quick and he shoulda rapped on the part of the beat w keef again and had keefs part happen twice bc its so catchy

  • Nov 28, 2023
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    content matters more than runtime

    lil durk and offset had no business being that long but i like what uzi and drake did

  • Nov 28, 2023
    so much pain

    content matters more than runtime

    lil durk and offset had no business being that long but i like what uzi and drake did

    see yea keeping it a buck i didnt feel that way about pink tape. still love uzi tho. i guess its all in the eye of the beholder

  • Nov 28, 2023

    can we also stop these short ass 10-13 song albums a lot of them simply are just not long enough to be fleshed out. And a lot of yall call albums too long when they are NOT. there are plenty albums that are great at 17-18-19 songs, even if its on the long side.i think over 20 is p overkill tho, sometimes though an artist just records a lot and genuinely likes the songs and doesnt filter them well enough, which would make sense to be a bit more common now since theres less work from labels putting into artistic developement and executive production with direction.

  • Nov 28, 2023

    for example, you can tell in situations like uzi, he genuinely thought that length was justified and was trying to center the experience and had a lot ot say with that length. He was trying to make a grand statement and experience. FATD less so, however drake doesnt seem to care much about albums he just enjoys making fun songs and putting them out. and its fine not to be an album artist. we keep trying to force drake to be one, lol.

  • Nov 28, 2023
    PushaToThe

    artists are also making 2 minute songs cause 90 seconds is like the minimum amount of seconds for a stream to count

    I think sales should count in streamed minutes and not in streamed amount of songs

    second part is a f***ing horrible idea for so many reasons i cannot even begin, however to adress the first point also people just dont enjoy long songs much anymore. Most of the time, a lot of songs are also improved by being shortened and having fat cut out. Those 4 minute songs? they had a lot of repeating the chorus, a lot of intro outro wasting time. Especialyl for something like the new underground or just making bangers, u would rather get the essence and meat of it and move on.

  • Nov 28, 2023

    I only want long albums from my favs

    Trash artists need to stop doing that s***

    Just trying to fluff their streaming numbers