if they have an exception then they're not pro life
thats why the stance is so stupid. you can be anti-abortion 100% and be pro choice. if youre allowing a choice off of an exception then you're not in the life group anymore
? 1 you can't just decide other people's beliefs like that you aren't even a part of the group, why would u be the arbiter of defining its nuance or lack thereof
2 how can you be anti-abortion 100% and be pro choice? but u can't be pro-life and allow abortions in extreme situations
even thou shalt not kill has exception ie war...
dont know why u quotin the bible tho
dont know why u quotin the bible tho
sorry if i misinterpreted/assumed your position, i only page 3, i just quoted it because thats what many anti-abortion ppl cite
Define viability
I’m not in favor of late term abortions unless mother or child’s life is in danger, rape and incest the standard exceptions
But first 6 months it’s open season if a woman wants to
Notice how the only 3 republicans senators whom are pro choice are women
We agree then for the most part lmao maybe not 6 months tho idk
Republicans never give a f*** about anything or anyone unless it personally effects them
“Personal responsibility” used by American conservatives is a dog whistle to avoid dealing with real systemic inequalities in a society
how were u saying another user is arguing in bad faith when you write like this while posing the question "why are people pro-life?" u didn't want an answer, u just wanted to circlejerk bout how republicans n some religious ppl suck. fair enough to do that, but this thread's premise is the "bad faith" attempt here
"The bill would require a health-care practitioner to “exercise the same degree of professional skill, care, and diligence to preserve the life and health of the child” as he or she would to “any other child born alive at the same gestational age.”
how were u saying another user is arguing in bad faith when you write like this while posing the question "why are people pro-life?" u didn't want an answer, u just wanted to circlejerk bout how republicans n some religious ppl suck. fair enough to do that, but this thread's premise is the "bad faith" attempt here
Well I was hoping for a perspective
I believe legalizing abortions providing birth control and teach s***education is very pro life
? 1 you can't just decide other people's beliefs like that you aren't even a part of the group, why would u be the arbiter of defining its nuance or lack thereof
2 how can you be anti-abortion 100% and be pro choice? but u can't be pro-life and allow abortions in extreme situations
stems from my original post in this thread. i dont believe the term pro-life to really make sense or be a legit group
i can personally be totally against abortion. I don't have to care if my friend from HS gets one cus that's her choice...that makes me pro choice with me personally choosing against it. Like no ones begging people to care about strangers these people only do when its this and gay people
pro choice can mean you choose to be against abortion
how were u saying another user is arguing in bad faith when you write like this while posing the question "why are people pro-life?" u didn't want an answer, u just wanted to circlejerk bout how republicans n some religious ppl suck. fair enough to do that, but this thread's premise is the "bad faith" attempt here
I think OP is a soycialist thats all they do in the politics thread lmao
"The bill would require a health-care practitioner to “exercise the same degree of professional skill, care, and diligence to preserve the life and health of the child” as he or she would to “any other child born alive at the same gestational age.”
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.washingtonpost.com/politics/senate-blocks-bill-on-medical-care-for-children-born-alive-after-attempted-abortion/2019/02/25/e5d3d4d8-3924-11e9-a06c-3ec8ed509d15_story.html%3foutputType=amp
Late term abortions(without exceptions) are already illegal in america buddy
I think OP is a soycialist thats all they do in the politics thread lmao
Nah I don’t like moderate dems like Manchin, Sinema, Finestein
Like pro choice is the only term that actually encompasses each side
you can be for it
you can be against it
both are as long as its your choice and sides with your personal beliefs and you worry about yourself
9 states allow for late term abortion with no state-imposed threshold. What are pro-choice folk stance on that?
I’ve never understood how some people can be so black and white in regards to abortion (both sides). I used to try to come to a conclusion by asking when does human life begin? And the only answer I’ve been able to accept is the moment of conception. Choosing any stage after just feels like picking a random arbitrary point.
I’ve now recentered my stance on it as being a matter of suffering. Will getting an abortion reduce suffering and to what extent?
Luckily I ain’t female and it ain’t my body. Ain’t my conscience
edit: someone mentioned viability being a cutoff point after I posted this. That might be my new stance now.
I mean anti abortion as the ones trying to prevent abortions from being necessary in the first place
Also, who gives a flying f*** about religion in 2021, were not a theocracy, religion should never dictate public law
What should dictate public law? In your opinion.
it's religion being in peoples business
pro-life* is a misnomer imo
if you were pro-life you'd be anti-war, pro-universal-healthcare, pro-housing, mental health-care all that stuff that facilitates a better shot at life
stems from my original post in this thread. i dont believe the term pro-life to really make sense or be a legit group
i can personally be totally against abortion. I don't have to care if my friend from HS gets one cus that's her choice...that makes me pro choice with me personally choosing against it. Like no ones begging people to care about strangers these people only do when its this and gay people
pro choice can mean you choose to be against abortion
i get your 2nd paragraph but fr if you don't think smthn makes sense that doesn't mean it makes no sense to other ppl, so arguing on their behalf (when u don't even think they are a proper group) about how their ideas work is just strange
i dont mean to put you on blast for it, i guess just seeing these kinda threads gets me pissy lol. the "these (insert group of ppl with opposing belief) suck! let's all agree with each other and speak on the other group's behalf while we destroy their arguments that we are making for them" kind of threads
Late term abortions(without exceptions) are already illegal in america buddy
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Partial-Birth_Abortion_Ban_Act
so why did they vote against it?
it's religion being in peoples business
pro-life* is a misnomer imo
if you were pro-life you'd be anti-war, pro-universal-healthcare, pro-housing, mental health-care all that stuff that facilitates a better shot at life
such a loaded term its ridiculous
another reason why it makes no sense. abortion would be the last thing on your mind
because not everyone agrees with the pro-choice narrative? Get over it. This thread comes off as some entitled privileged ignorance.
because not everyone agrees with the pro-choice narrative? Get over it. This thread comes off as some entitled privileged ignorance.
so why did they vote against it?
I don’t know, I’m not a member of Congress
If you’re go concerned you go call their line if you’re a constituent
I get y’all don’t have any faith in religion but don’t dismiss the fact that the next man does. This is vital!!!!
Just cause you have no connection with a higher power doesn’t make you superior to those that believe they do.
I get y’all don’t have any faith in religion but don’t dismiss the fact that the next man does. This is vital!!!!
Just cause you have no connection with a higher power doesn’t make you superior to those that believe they do.
much hypocrisy to be pointed out within the pro-life "movement" as it were, though.