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  • Aug 3, 2020

    Another thing: streams being equal to sales only vindicates people who hold onto sales being more important than streams and kinda proves them right

  • Aug 3, 2020
    BRAVE

    It’s still a business for artists tbf

    lmao yeah like what was the other dude even trying to say?? everybody got bills to pay

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    BRAVE

    Yeah

    I think that would only work if they completely discounted sales because people would focus on the low sales and call the album a flop even if it had impressive streaming numbers

  • Aug 3, 2020

    Only reason to use streaming equivalent sales or whatever you want to call them is to compare sales from before streaming and after streaming.

    And comparing sales from different generations is already pretty dumb, so

  • Aug 3, 2020
    Shabazz999

    I think that would only work if they completely discounted sales because people would focus on the low sales and call the album a flop even if it had impressive streaming numbers

    Well damn you just started a new level to the convo lol

    Should sales be completely discounted?

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    @Brave

    True but theres way more focus on sales in music than the other platforms right? @BasedBoy

  • I think the streams/equivalent units Billboard is doing now works fine, I just think streaming should weigh more. It should be less than 1500 streams for one sale

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    Aphrodite

    @Brave

    True but theres way more focus on sales in music than the other platforms right? @BasedBoy

    From the fans yeah

  • Aug 3, 2020
    Shabazz999

    I think that would only work if they completely discounted sales because people would focus on the low sales and call the album a flop even if it had impressive streaming numbers

    Which is a consumer issue that need to be changed but probably never will

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    BRAVE

    From the fans yeah

    I think from the artist themselves too be honest

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    Aphrodite

    I think from the artist themselves too be honest

    In music there’s definitely more of a stigma that bad sales indicate bad quality

    Whereas nobody calls Blade Runner 2049 a bad film cause it didn’t do so well at the BO

  • Aug 3, 2020
    Aphrodite

    @Brave

    True but theres way more focus on sales in music than the other platforms right? @BasedBoy

    Books definitely focus on them less.

    Movies are a bit more similar to music, the big blockbuster type movies focus more on box office than the 'artistic' indie type movies, similar to music.

    Fans of music are definitely more concerned with sales overall though, I think because being a part of the current culture/cultural is a lot more important for music than it is for movies, and sales are a somewhat objective measurement of that

  • Aug 3, 2020

    gosh. everything was so much simpler before the bullshit streaming era. all this s*** now is

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    BRAVE

    In music there’s definitely more of a stigma that bad sales indicate bad quality

    Whereas nobody calls Blade Runner 2049 a bad film cause it didn’t do so well at the BO

    I think artists should stop bragging about sales and trying so hard for number 1 (tho I'm sure it probably has contract bonuses etc but that shouldn't matter when it comes to the music) and actually show more support for things they actually enjoy. I think the landscape change starts with them

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    Streams equaling sales is just a facade for the fact that music as a product doesn’t really exist anymore. Streaming services is the product we buy and the music these artists release are apart of it. Albums,singles etc really don’t even exist beyond giving artists structure on how to release music,Billboard charts and counting streams as sales are still here for the same reason.

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    gnarlynasty

    Streams equaling sales is just a facade for the fact that music as a product doesn’t really exist anymore. Streaming services is the product we buy and the music these artists release are apart of it. Albums,singles etc really don’t even exist beyond giving artists structure on how to release music,Billboard charts and counting streams as sales are still here for the same reason.

    Yep it’s just the industry holding on to a dying thing

  • Aug 3, 2020
    BRAVE

    Yep it’s just the industry holding on to a dying thing

    It’s already dead imo,streaming was made entirely to slow down piracy,cheapen production of music and for labels to have total control of music and the way its consumed. We as consumers only fell for it cause it was a “too good to be true deal” which it was.

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