This a cop out homie
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I’m saying that s*** is so homogenized n crosspollinated that it doesn’t matter
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I’m saying that s*** is so homogenized n crosspollinated that it doesn’t matter
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That may be true but it’s not how music is classified at all
racism and economics
it’s more and more expensive to teach a child an instrument
you have to be very hands on with youth music education
if u don’t have the time to push your child at home, you simply need to get them lessons. this is on top of the rising price point for instruments
of course you can argue that rock has a DIY culture but it’s DIY culture is dominated by white guys who are rich/privileged enough to get in the industry
it’s more economically feasible to be a hip hop artist, off the strength that you can get on with a mic, interface, and laptop
you need beats and a voice
for other genres you really need to be able to practice with others. there’s great services like pirate studios where you can rent studio space but they’re only in a select few cities. idk how much it costs to get studio time in general but it’s not cheap lol
i have a lot of feelings about this as an artist in the diy scene in new york and i can safely say the simple answer is systematic racism whether or not people want to roll their eyes at that lol
This is big facts, we’ll said bruh.
Question though, couldn’t one just perform on rock instrumentals ?
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I’m saying that s*** is so homogenized n crosspollinated that it doesn’t matter
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Ahh bet I feel u
This is big facts, we’ll said bruh.
Question though, couldn’t one just perform on rock instrumentals ?
The beats would be more expensive as a band would still have to go to a studio and make those beats.
At that stage they might as get a singer and make music for themselves.
Ahh bet I feel u
Like Travis, Uzi, Carti, Weeknd, Ye, etc are all “pop” if u wanna be technical
so it comes down 2 what ppl on here have in their heads about it
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Because y’all determined to make excuses for Niggas not being able to rap so y’all call Lil Uzi/Yeat/Carti type music rap when it’s closer to rock/pop and really is damn near a whole new genre as is all of that super melodic trap type music
Imagine how both genres would be flourishing if we kept Hip Hop/Rap Hip Hop/Rap and all the “Imma rockstar” niggas just went ahead and claimed that genre instead of killing off mainstream lyrical rap lol
Carti and Yeat the perfect examples of people who would be having way cooler careers and probably would be more artistically interesting if they were considered rock acts
There’s definitely something to be said how a lot of that rockstar hiphop is really rock music from an ethos standpoint. Hell synths are effectively the new electric guitars, that’s why Mike Dean hiphop collaborators all have the audience of white boys that would’ve been rock fans 30 years ago
Besides what you said about the excuses made, this is in large part due to rock purists rigidly sticking to live instrumentation defining their genre and not letting the genre evolve
That may be true but it’s not how music is classified at all
f*** classification it’s 4 nerds
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easier and more accessible for niggas to learn how to rap and produce than be in a band highkey.
f*** classification it’s 4 nerds
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It’s literally the opposite though
The nerds are more open to different classifications as you can see on RYM one the best soul albums ever is Blonde and that Tyler album
But to the mainstream you’re under a label and that’s it.
Best example was Hotline Bling being a rap song over a pop song lmao
easier and more accessible for niggas to learn how to rap and produce than be in a band highkey.
Yea sumone highlighted that, very good point
But couldn’t u hop in a stu a produce those same instruments wit tech?
literally like no new rock artists have popped off since like the 90s
It’s a dead genre like jazz
not saying there isn’t decent jazz being made or whatever but it’s not gonna pop
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what?
the strokes, arcade fire, paramore, arctic monkeys, tame impala, phoebe bridgers etc...
There’s definitely something to be said how a lot of that rockstar hiphop is really rock music from an ethos standpoint. Hell synths are effectively the new electric guitars, that’s why Mike Dean hiphop collaborators all have the audience of white boys that would’ve been rock fans 30 years ago
Besides what you said about the excuses made, this is in large part due to rock purists rigidly sticking to live instrumentation defining their genre and not letting the genre evolve
Synths being the new electric guitars is a crazy way to look at it. But I can see it
Synths being the new electric guitars is a crazy way to look at it. But I can see it
Carti, Yeat, Travis, Kanye (The Godfather of this s*** for the last 15 years with Mike and Jeff Bhasker)
All major examples of how this relationship works
what?
the strokes, arcade fire, paramore, arctic monkeys, tame impala, phoebe bridgers etc...
Fr. This is the golden era for rock lnao
It’s more accessible to make then everyone before
what?
the strokes, arcade fire, paramore, arctic monkeys, tame impala, phoebe bridgers etc...
It would make a little more sense if he said like past 10 years
forreal tho who are the black rock stars rn?
ye, carti, rico nasty
Ye is debatable imo
Carti
Rico
And a guy on another site got me hip to Yves Vonne
It would make a little more sense if he said like past 10 years
for sure at least from a commercial standpoint, but there's plenty of rock out there and always will be
Fr. This is the golden era for rock lnao
It’s more accessible to make then everyone before
How do rock fans feel about artists using studio produced instruments?
There’s definitely something to be said how a lot of that rockstar hiphop is really rock music from an ethos standpoint. Hell synths are effectively the new electric guitars, that’s why Mike Dean hiphop collaborators all have the audience of white boys that would’ve been rock fans 30 years ago
Besides what you said about the excuses made, this is in large part due to rock purists rigidly sticking to live instrumentation defining their genre and not letting the genre evolve
fl studio is the new electric guitar lmao
Yea sumone highlighted that, very good point
But couldn’t u hop in a stu a produce those same instruments wit tech?
nah most producers ik arent really in the studio. Even when they go most dont have traditional instrument experience
Ye is debatable imo
Carti
Rico
And a guy on another site got me hip to Yves Vonne
oh s*** duh! yves of course