OPJul 25, 2020ยท2 replies
krishna boundchristianity has a massive history of forced conversion not many people wants to talk about. it's not just black people; tons of europeans, asians/indians, and obviously south americans were forced to convert too. christianity is probably undeniably the most imperialistic religion because of the way it developed; you can argue it's not a core facet of the religion in theory but it has been in practice of the practictioners. this isn't to say forced conversion didn't happen elsewhere...but i mean the like 50 years it happened in a random part of the middle east in a jewish tribe isn't really comparable to the majority of modern classical history.
also a lot of groups advocating forced conversion were reactionary to conversions to begin with; like, modern Hindu Extremism was largely a reaction to forced conversions in India, specifically christianity (although to be fair it also happened separately with Islam in like the 14-15th century).Separaretly, as I understand @Ari, "forced conversion"/"religious compulsion" is banned by Quranic law right? (see below) do you know why this hasn't been the case historically? this is a genuine question i don't know the answer to, not trying to be a smartass or anything
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Yeah of course forced conversion to Islam has happened (Bosnia) but generally that isnโt the case
Jul 25, 2020ยท1 replyAriThe Prophet (PBUH) didnโt write the Quran it was revealed to him by god
Yes but a lot of scolars and imams/hodzas preach that the prophet wrote it which isnt true
The Quran first came about years after he died so who knows if everything written in the quran or hadith were ven his words that came to him by god
Jul 25, 2020ยท1 reply
CNA Lov3ly-wasnt allowed to read or write
-christianty was forced on themPick one
Both? You donโt need to read and write to have Christianity forced on you
- OPJul 25, 2020The Infinite M
Yes but a lot of scolars and imams/hodzas preach that the prophet wrote it which isnt true
The Quran first came about years after he died so who knows if everything written in the quran or hadith were ven his words that came to him by god
The Quran is preserved basically because his companions memorized everything he had said.
Hadiths are way trickier because they came around like 400 years after he passed away 
Jul 25, 2020CNA Lov3lyChristianity came from an old sumarian religion
If Christianity gave black ppl the hope they needed to cope with whites beating, murdering, raping, breeding, etc them then more power to Christianity
We just gotta get rid of this white Jesus fella
Real recognize real and white Jesus is hella unfamiliar
Yeah thatโs what I always interpreted it as. They had to have something to cope, so they turned to what was available to them, which explains why it would be so deeply entrenched.
- OPJul 25, 2020
RIP PRINCEยท editedWhy does anyone? This question shouldnt just be directed towards black people.
This is true
I was specifying black people because of how entrenched it is in our communities - Jul 25, 2020ยท2 repliesAri
Yeah of course forced conversion to Islam has happened (Bosnia) but generally that isnโt the case
to be clear i'm not trying to push an agenda that Islam is a violent religion; I know enough about the religion to know that isn't the case and to know the culture of legal separation and treatment of guests/strangers.
I'm just curious why despite this in parts of history there were forced conversions like the Yemeni Jews, (some of) the Ottoman Empire, and historically in like Pakistan. Is it because they were namely in places with beliefs considered heretical instead of ุฃูู ุงููุชุงุจโ? I genuinely don't know a lot on a lot this subject and I'm curious to learn more - Jul 25, 2020CNA Lov3ly
Christianity came from an old sumarian religion
If Christianity gave black ppl the hope they needed to cope with whites beating, murdering, raping, breeding, etc them then more power to Christianity
We just gotta get rid of this white Jesus fella
Real recognize real and white Jesus is hella unfamiliar
Jul 25, 2020it's dumb to single out one religion. they (abrahamic) are all generally the same s***.
- OPJul 25, 2020ยท1 replykrishna bound
to be clear i'm not trying to push an agenda that Islam is a violent religion; I know enough about the religion to know that isn't the case and to know the culture of legal separation and treatment of guests/strangers.
I'm just curious why despite this in parts of history there were forced conversions like the Yemeni Jews, (some of) the Ottoman Empire, and historically in like Pakistan. Is it because they were namely in places with beliefs considered heretical instead of ุฃูู ุงููุชุงุจโ? I genuinely don't know a lot on a lot this subject and I'm curious to learn moreThis is a great question that I donโt know the answer to.
I will agree that the Ottomans were extremely aggressive and are responsible for the forced conversion of many of the people under their rule - Jul 25, 2020ยท1 replykrishna bound
to be clear i'm not trying to push an agenda that Islam is a violent religion; I know enough about the religion to know that isn't the case and to know the culture of legal separation and treatment of guests/strangers.
I'm just curious why despite this in parts of history there were forced conversions like the Yemeni Jews, (some of) the Ottoman Empire, and historically in like Pakistan. Is it because they were namely in places with beliefs considered heretical instead of ุฃูู ุงููุชุงุจโ? I genuinely don't know a lot on a lot this subject and I'm curious to learn moreyou won't find the answer on KTT
Jul 25, 2020Kind of a weird question.
People usually stick with the religion that their parents indoctrinated them into, and most people in the US are Christian. Asking "why do black people follow x religion" implies that people are given a choice looking at the pros and cons of religions and choosing which one to adhere to. Their family is Christian, their friends are christian, and there is the possibility you burn in hell for 7000 years if you quit believing. Not much of incentive to think critically imo.
Most Religious people don't critically look at religion anyway. And if they decided to switch religion based on the criteria in OP, why would they even stay religious? Theres no major religion which doesn't have a dubious history or didn't have slave traders in its ranks.
- Jul 25, 2020Frog
you won't find the answer on KTT
i thought maybe someone who was muslim would esp. since they seem knowledgeable in the islam threads
- Jul 25, 2020ยท1 replyAri
This is a great question that I donโt know the answer to.
I will agree that the Ottomans were extremely aggressive and are responsible for the forced conversion of many of the people under their rulethanks no worries, i appreciate just admitting you don't know, ive tried to ask elsewhere in the past and people just kinda angry when it was a genuine curiousity and not an attack on the religion
Jul 25, 2020ยท1 replyIndoctrination and brainwashing obviously
They aren't bothering you so let them be
- OPJul 25, 2020krishna bound
thanks no worries, i appreciate just admitting you don't know, ive tried to ask elsewhere in the past and people just kinda angry when it was a genuine curiousity and not an attack on the religion
Yea no problem
- OPJul 25, 2020SLAYER
Indoctrination and brainwashing obviously
They aren't bothering you so let them be
I simply asked a question
- Jul 25, 2020ยทeditedยท1 replySmoofer
Both? You donโt need to read and write to have Christianity forced on you
Idk.. I just find it hard to imagine white colonizers taking the time out to teach black slaves the word of god
Jul 25, 2020"Religion is the sigh of the oppressed creature, the heart of a heartless world, and the soul of soulless conditions. It is the opium of the people"
- OPJul 25, 2020ยท1 reply
Jul 25, 2020ยท1 replyArihttps://yaqeeninstitute.org/hassam-munir/did-islam-spread-by-the-sword-a-critical-look-at-forced-conversions/
Muslims rulers like Aurangzeb literally murdered anyone who didn't want to be a muslim including sikh GURU's
- Jul 25, 2020
no one in pakistan should be muslim since it was forced upon them by the mughal empire
- Jul 25, 2020
- OPJul 25, 2020ยท1 replyYou Disappoint Me
Muslims rulers like Aurangzeb literally murdered anyone who didn't want to be a muslim including sikh GURU's
If you had read the thing it addresses that
