Oct 29, 2020d stonerBut why was none of the other folklore spread like that.
China and russia share a border, and they dont even share stories or culture like that.
well the Russia and China thing is above all else because most of Russia is an arctic wasteland, the ethnic Russians live close in to the rest of Europe
Christianity and Islam basically spinoffs of Judaism that over time became their own thing
Christianity in particular spread for a number of reasons: missionaries, the will of kings/emperors, the fact that it was more accepting of women and the poor, countries being conquered by the Roman Empire, etc.
- d stoner 🤬Oct 29, 2020·1 reply
rnb spongeIt depends like there were places where monarchies conquered peoples and forced them to change to practice the christian religion, or like in African countries where missionaries went during colonialism and made them practice christianity while they stole the resources etc
Also when europeans came and forced slaves to practice christianity, but they made sure to take out the part about moses freeing the slaves of course... cause you know.. wouldn't want them to know there was a blueprint about the fact they should be free
some places it got established there before the power structure could oppose it, or the powers weren't strong enough to oppose it when it was established.
China is a different story I believe they clip ya ass for practicing it there lol
This makes sense, and over the course of thousands years, its definitely possible. The great pyramid alone is more absurd.
I still think its wild how much different religions share in common and their lasting power (also the predictions made, how could they have conceptualized a mark of the beast, implanted under the skin, with the capability to replace money.... Thats f***in wild)
I do appreciate the logic gone into ur skepticism tho. The specifics u brought up probably make for the most compelling counter argument ive heard
- Oct 29, 2020·1 replyd stoner
This makes sense, and over the course of thousands years, its definitely possible. The great pyramid alone is more absurd.
I still think its wild how much different religions share in common and their lasting power (also the predictions made, how could they have conceptualized a mark of the beast, implanted under the skin, with the capability to replace money.... Thats f***in wild)
I do appreciate the logic gone into ur skepticism tho. The specifics u brought up probably make for the most compelling counter argument ive heard
oh yeah i mean judaism, islam, christianity all venerate Abraham and they're considered "Abrahamic" religions so they overlap
also the great flood is mentioned in a lot of ancient texts along with other s*** like certain leaders that were in the bible and other historical texts to confirm the existence of certain figures like kings and places and s***
Oct 29, 2020We are all children of God, the creator, the Most High, for the simple fact that He created us all
Oct 29, 2020·edited·2 repliesYall should read up on Zoroastrianism if you're not familiar. It developed some of the core tenets followed by Abrahamic religions and theres a lot of connection between it & them.
A cosmic battle between right & wrong, a good God & evil advisory, virgin birth, heaven & hell and more are staples of the religion
- Oct 29, 2020·1 replyPsychodrama
When you judge theologians you have to study and look for their intent and purpose behind what they're teaching
God's gifts are many and limitless but the most fruitful and precious gift is not prophecies, exorcisms, intuitions or even wisdom....you know what are the biggest gifts for a believer??? love, peace and humility
nowadays we all look for signs.,you got people reading revelations and preaching fear over love....so, for me to treat everyone with suspicion and as a pharisee goes against the humility that someone can teach me more that I dont know and that way of ''modern pharisee'' thinking is also going against the commandment of jesus to love each other
how am I supposed to love you or anyone if I think they're pharisees? that doesnt mean I should believe everything I hear....you can tell if someone is real by the fruits of the spirit...if you dont even look for the fruits tho then you deny love itself
and as far as denominations go....when a man was doing exorcisms then jesus' disciples went to him and asked him for that man's punishment jesus said ''whoever is not against you is with you'' (im quoting that verse by heart so forgive my mistakes)
First off, not casting judgement on theologians or anyone here. It’s one thing when ones God is God yet others god is money and riches of this earth. To rub shoulders with politicians and celebrities.
Theology, various denominations, reforms and religions have added and or taken away from the Bible.
Yes we’ll know them by their fruits. You bring up a point of what love, humility and peace. What is love, peace and humility according to scripture?
There isn’t a need to listen to someone who doesn’t preach Jesus. Another Jesus, denies the Holy Spirit etc. No need to eat with one whose in the church for money. One who will “adapt” the word of God to be loved by others in the world.
While some are reciting revelations, what some see as fear, I see happiness! If these are the times, we must prepare ourselves spiritually and take up our cross daily. If Our Father gave us the blueprint what is there to fear? If we know that we don’t war against flesh and blood than no weapon formed against us shall prosper! If we know that this is spiritual warfare, then we put on the whole armor of God and just as Christ said in Luke 10:18-19
“And he said unto them, I beheld Satan as lightning fall from heaven. Behold, I give unto you power to tread on serpents and scorpions, and over all the power of the enemy: and nothing shall by any means hurt you.”What is there to run from? All the word is doing is giving us understanding an everlasting life with wisdom.
- Oct 29, 2020Faygo
I never understood why people think this?
It doesn't make sense for a unimaginable thing (God) to either have a offspring.
And if Jesus was God/Son of God why would he have to die to forgive our sins? why wouldn't our sins just be forgiven by simply asking.
In my eyes Jesus was definitely real but instead of being a deity he was simply a prophetJesus was more than a prophet, he represented God and His everlasting word. Christ was spiritual and gave us spiritual doctrine where as the OT Laws of Aaron was of carnal. They’re still the commandments of God. Most people even Israelis are under the Levitical Priesthood. Christ brought to us the Melchizedek Priesthood where the Word resonates in our heart and we’re baptized by the Holy Spirit. The New Covenant is what Christ represents and paved the way for.
- Oct 29, 2020·1 replyExperiment626
Yall should read up on Zoroastrianism if you're not familiar. It developed some of the core tenets followed by Abrahamic religions and theres a lot of connection between it & them.
A cosmic battle between right & wrong, a good God & evil advisory, virgin birth, heaven & hell and more are staples of the religion
True and that’s because it was made when the Israelites were in the Babylonian captivity. The Babylonians didn’t remove the Israelites from following God as we’ll see the Greeks do during the Maccabean period. Through this, one the Babylonians actually liked the ways of Israel and created Zoroasterism. Has a messiah etc. as you know lol
- d stoner 🤬Oct 29, 2020·1 replyrnb sponge
oh yeah i mean judaism, islam, christianity all venerate Abraham and they're considered "Abrahamic" religions so they overlap
also the great flood is mentioned in a lot of ancient texts along with other s*** like certain leaders that were in the bible and other historical texts to confirm the existence of certain figures like kings and places and s***
True too. If ur gonna make up some s*** like that, u might wanna use some real events as ur 'proof' lol
By all means, its not like im not skeptical at all either... Its just the predictions made, the impact/spread of the text, and the lack of explainations for our universes origins and the differentiation between us and all other creatures that we really dont have better explainations for, that give it some merit.
- Oct 29, 2020·1 replyd stoner
True too. If ur gonna make up some s*** like that, u might wanna use some real events as ur 'proof' lol
By all means, its not like im not skeptical at all either... Its just the predictions made, the impact/spread of the text, and the lack of explainations for our universes origins and the differentiation between us and all other creatures that we really dont have better explainations for, that give it some merit.
its also interesting about the councils and where they decided what books were valid and which ones didn't seem as real... and like the 1500s-1600s where they were changing s*** up
- d stoner 🤬Oct 29, 2020·1 replyExperiment626
Yall should read up on Zoroastrianism if you're not familiar. It developed some of the core tenets followed by Abrahamic religions and theres a lot of connection between it & them.
A cosmic battle between right & wrong, a good God & evil advisory, virgin birth, heaven & hell and more are staples of the religion
- d stoner 🤬Oct 29, 2020·2 repliesrnb sponge
its also interesting about the councils and where they decided what books were valid and which ones didn't seem as real... and like the 1500s-1600s where they were changing s*** up
Even now, homosexuality is suddenly ok according to the pope... Solely because our culture is more accepting now lol
- Oct 29, 2020·1 replyd stoner
Even now, homosexuality is suddenly ok according to the pope... Solely because our culture is more accepting now lol
its all interpretation imo thats why i dont always attack the belief system but the warping of it away from some of its more core positive aspects
- Oct 29, 202024stills
True and that’s because it was made when the Israelites were in the Babylonian captivity. The Babylonians didn’t remove the Israelites from following God as we’ll see the Greeks do during the Maccabean period. Through this, one the Babylonians actually liked the ways of Israel and created Zoroasterism. Has a messiah etc. as you know lol
The thought of who influenced who is very interesting one imo. Zoroastrianism is recorded to be the oldest monotheistic religion to date according to historians but also Judaism was a overlapping series of beliefs, evolving with time.
I personally lean on the idea that Zoroastrianism influenced the Middle east but I understand this is debated as well
- Oct 29, 2020d stoner
It's very interesting fam
- d stoner 🤬Oct 29, 2020·1 replyrnb sponge
its all interpretation imo thats why i dont always attack the belief system but the warping of it away from some of its more core positive aspects
Real
As someone more on the believer side... If its mostly true, its still disgusting how its been warped. All of them have been.
Even today, with the pedo priests faking their religion just to gain goodwill.
- Oct 29, 202024stills
First off, not casting judgement on theologians or anyone here. It’s one thing when ones God is God yet others god is money and riches of this earth. To rub shoulders with politicians and celebrities.
Theology, various denominations, reforms and religions have added and or taken away from the Bible.
Yes we’ll know them by their fruits. You bring up a point of what love, humility and peace. What is love, peace and humility according to scripture?
There isn’t a need to listen to someone who doesn’t preach Jesus. Another Jesus, denies the Holy Spirit etc. No need to eat with one whose in the church for money. One who will “adapt” the word of God to be loved by others in the world.
While some are reciting revelations, what some see as fear, I see happiness! If these are the times, we must prepare ourselves spiritually and take up our cross daily. If Our Father gave us the blueprint what is there to fear? If we know that we don’t war against flesh and blood than no weapon formed against us shall prosper! If we know that this is spiritual warfare, then we put on the whole armor of God and just as Christ said in Luke 10:18-19
“And he said unto them, I beheld Satan as lightning fall from heaven. Behold, I give unto you power to tread on serpents and scorpions, and over all the power of the enemy: and nothing shall by any means hurt you.”What is there to run from? All the word is doing is giving us understanding an everlasting life with wisdom.
I disagree on so many levels and I think neither of us can change the other's beliefs so I'll say this: I'm not a good person trying to be holy or a normal person trying to be good. I'm just a spiritualy dead and blind person trying to be normal according to what my Church, Saints, Mary and Jesus taught me.....
- Oct 29, 2020d stoner
Real
As someone more on the believer side... If its mostly true, its still disgusting how its been warped. All of them have been.
Even today, with the pedo priests faking their religion just to gain goodwill.
i mean it was used as an excuse by people to gain worldly power which is contrary to what jesus taught so
Oct 29, 2020·2 repliesd stonerBut why was none of the other folklore spread like that.
China and russia share a border, and they dont even share stories or culture like that.
the epicenters for chinese and russian culture are almost as far away as it can be within the context of geolocation tho - kiev/novgorod/moscow is in the western reaches of russia as opposed to the cultural capitals (too many to name lol) being generally in eastern china.
the time where they shared the most culture was probably when they were both subjugated by the mongols 700 years ago aka the people that were most capable to bridge their geographic barrier (the steppes)
- Oct 29, 2020
Israel was scattered to all nations, more than once. Europe, Asia, Africa, The America’s, Russia etc.
- Oct 29, 2020arrrg
the epicenters for chinese and russian culture are almost as far away as it can be within the context of geolocation tho - kiev/novgorod/moscow is in the western reaches of russia as opposed to the cultural capitals (too many to name lol) being generally in eastern china.
the time where they shared the most culture was probably when they were both subjugated by the mongols 700 years ago aka the people that were most capable to bridge their geographic barrier (the steppes)
essentially, geographic barriers initially and now in the modern sense the "owners" of the cultural heritage of each country (russki, han) are not from the borderlands (turkic, mongols, manchu, etc.)
Oct 29, 2020·2 replies
HITSLIKEDIETCOKEBro literally read 10:33. What is that implying?
34-36 has the answer
He responds and quotes Psalm "Ye are God's" and asks why are they stoning him for blasphemy for merely calling himself Son of God when the people are called Gods in the book. Again this does not explain the concept of trinity since there are verses of other people labeled as Son of God so this quote is being used wrong.
Instead you have quotes where Jesus him self declares and mentions clearly who the real God is to him and states the father is the only one and even states that the father is greater than he is and that he can't do anything without the Father. Trinity is on the basis of being co equal God's but Jesus himself puts the Father higher than himself.