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  • Jan 14, 2020
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    GIO GIO

    The top 1% of earners pay 37.3% of all the taxes in the country, and The bottom 50% of earners pay 3% of the taxes in the country. Per IRS tax revenue data. I'd say they pay their fair share

    Do you realize how meaningless this statistic is when the top 1% hold way more wealth than the bottom 50%

  • Jan 14, 2020
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    Synopsis

    so the premise is because there are a lot of potential amazon workers they don't demand as much pay

    and because there relatively few people who are computer engineers, the pay is higher right

    Companies in silicon valley are willing to fork over more money to good quality software engineers, because they are in high demand and worth lots to their company, yes. While most potential amazon warehouse workers, while very important to the company, can perform at roughly the same quality level no matter who they are

  • Jan 14, 2020
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    GIO GIO

    The top 1% of earners pay 37.3% of all the taxes in the country, and The bottom 50% of earners pay 3% of the taxes in the country. Per IRS tax revenue data. I'd say they pay their fair share

    vox.com/videos/2019/12/20/21028676/tax-poor-rich-data-video

  • Jan 14, 2020
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    GIO GIO

    Companies in silicon valley are willing to fork over more money to good quality software engineers, because they are in high demand and worth lots to their company, yes. While most potential amazon warehouse workers, while very important to the company, can perform at roughly the same quality level no matter who they are

    so wouldnt this basic economical logic also say that if more people (thousands by your estimate) became software engineers it would dilute the market and they could pay software engineers less?

    this is ur logic

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    Synopsis

    so wouldnt this basic economical logic also say that if more people (thousands by your estimate) became software engineers it would dilute the market and they could pay software engineers less?

    this is ur logic

    Yes. Assuming they were good, they would pay software engineers less. But this doesn't happen. Most people don't want to be software engineers. Same reason why surgeons get paid the most. If everyone became surgeons, they would get paid less, because there would be less demand. This doesn't go for just software engineers, this goes for all highly technical fields that require lots of difficult school

  • Jan 14, 2020

    Threads like this are always such a brain drain to read, awful

  • Jan 14, 2020
    GIO GIO

    Yes. Assuming they were good, they would pay software engineers less. But this doesn't happen. Most people don't want to be software engineers. Same reason why surgeons get paid the most. If everyone became surgeons, they would get paid less, because there would be less demand. This doesn't go for just software engineers, this goes for all highly technical fields that require lots of difficult school

    And you see whats wrong with this

  • Jan 14, 2020

    That’s why real niggas rock fanny packs

  • Jan 14, 2020

    what the f*** do you expect someone with enough money to supply himself and his entire bloodline for literal millennia to do

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    Synopsis

    https://www.vox.com/videos/2019/12/20/21028676/tax-poor-rich-data-video

    Interesting video. I find it weird how they calculate payroll taxes. Also the sales tax thing is weird. Rich people still pay significantly more money than the rest because of percentages. Also billionares have their wealth in stock, you can't expect them to give their stock to the government.

  • Jan 14, 2020
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    GIO GIO

    There's a difference between working hard at something anyone can do and working hard at something few people can do. Those who can do specialized work are rewarded

    I'm working as a Social Worker, I've also had to go to university to get my masters degree (and my first finished education was software developer, but I changed course afterwards, so I know how things are run when you work in a company), I assure you I'm not working any less hours than I did before as a programmer.
    The work my colleagues and I are doing is saving you as a taxpayer lots of money (even if you'd say my work is payed through taxes), it is helping to keep the society secure and reintegrates people, so they can be a part of it again or they don't become a burden for you.

    How in the hell is it fair that we get payed only a tad bit more than the minimum wage or people with basic education depending on where we work at?
    My education is also highly specialized, I had to study subjects from various fields such as Social Sciences, Laws, Psychology, Health, Economy, Community Management and for my work I need to associate them with each other and combine the knowledge I have to find solutions for existing social problems (which are always multifactoral and interdisciplinary) in society.

    You can't tell me that s*** ain't complex enough for us to deserve a decent pay, just because we don't produce anything that can be measured in money

  • Jan 14, 2020
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    Ethic

    I'm working as a Social Worker, I've also had to go to university to get my masters degree (and my first finished education was software developer, but I changed course afterwards, so I know how things are run when you work in a company), I assure you I'm not working any less hours than I did before as a programmer.
    The work my colleagues and I are doing is saving you as a taxpayer lots of money (even if you'd say my work is payed through taxes), it is helping to keep the society secure and reintegrates people, so they can be a part of it again or they don't become a burden for you.

    How in the hell is it fair that we get payed only a tad bit more than the minimum wage or people with basic education depending on where we work at?
    My education is also highly specialized, I had to study subjects from various fields such as Social Sciences, Laws, Psychology, Health, Economy, Community Management and for my work I need to associate them with each other and combine the knowledge I have to find solutions for existing social problems (which are always multifactoral and interdisciplinary) in society.

    You can't tell me that s*** ain't complex enough for us to deserve a decent pay, just because we don't produce anything that can be measured in money

    That's a good point. I'll accept that. It is unfair, given the expertise that it takes to be able to do what you do, that you get paid so little. Who are you paid by, the government?

  • Jan 14, 2020
    GIO GIO

    Interesting video. I find it weird how they calculate payroll taxes. Also the sales tax thing is weird. Rich people still pay significantly more money than the rest because of percentages. Also billionares have their wealth in stock, you can't expect them to give their stock to the government.

    you find it weird because it doesn't fit with your narrative

    fact of the matter is poorer people pay a higher % and save me this stock and assets bullshit. tax it. there are ways.

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    GIO GIO

    That's a good point. I'll accept that. It is unfair, given the expertise that it takes to be able to do what you do, that you get paid so little. Who are you paid by, the government?

    Yes, in our country we get payed by the government.
    Also if we go to do projects abroad it's usually either subsidized by the government or partly funded by foundations.
    Since, how could we finance ourselves?
    And we are seeing tendencies that a neoliberalistic mentality is trying to seep into our work field, which means that the resources we get to do our work, this includes personel, money and time, tends to get under pressure to be cut down, which will in case take a toll on the quality of our work, which in the end will cost the tax payer more money if the job isn't done correctly and f.e. people can't be reintegrated into society where they can build a self-sustainable lifestyle for example. And this is partways because of the individualization of society and because people try to avoid taxes, which in turn leaves us with less resources to work with, as mentioned above.

    I'm just trying to give you a perspective from the other side and why solidarity in this case can be a benefit for all of us.

  • Jan 14, 2020
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    wowza

    Regular people dont even give money at the grocery store or to the people asking for donations outside of the store so why do they have a responsibility when the same people complaining cant even cough up a dollar to feed the children

    Nigga if I announced to the world what I donated, I’m opening my donation up to criticism. If I made a big announcement that I had donated one f***ing cent to Australia niggas would flame me and rightfully so. Y’all stay bootlicking for billionaires who don’t give a single f*** about you

  • Jan 14, 2020
    GIO GIO

    Interesting video. I find it weird how they calculate payroll taxes. Also the sales tax thing is weird. Rich people still pay significantly more money than the rest because of percentages. Also billionares have their wealth in stock, you can't expect them to give their stock to the government.

    You not gonna reply to me?

  • Jan 14, 2020
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    ghosting

    Do you realize how meaningless this statistic is when the top 1% hold way more wealth than the bottom 50%

    I wouldn't call it meaningless

  • Jan 14, 2020
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    EMY

    Nigga if I announced to the world what I donated, I’m opening my donation up to criticism. If I made a big announcement that I had donated one f***ing cent to Australia niggas would flame me and rightfully so. Y’all stay bootlicking for billionaires who don’t give a single f*** about you

    Expensive boots kinda tasty tho

  • Jan 14, 2020
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    wowza

    Expensive boots kinda tasty tho

    I knew y’all barely had arguments to back your claims. Capitalism did a number on y’all

  • Jan 14, 2020
    EMY

    I knew y’all barely had arguments to back your claims. Capitalism did a number on y’all

    You ever taste prada?

  • Jan 14, 2020
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    EMY

    I knew y’all barely had arguments to back your claims. Capitalism did a number on y’all

    Also lmao i stop arguing I’m not giving that type of energy rn I’m only here for jokes now its too late for that lmao maybe tomorrow

  • Jan 14, 2020
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    GIO GIO

    I wouldn't call it meaningless

    The top 10% hold about 80% of wealth, while the bottom 50% hold around 1%

    Yet you state that taxes are evenly distributed

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