Manual labor
Expecting to push through everything with hardships because you’re a man
Provide for yourself
Learning when to show your feelings and how to control them
Dealing with other men
These are real but they are products of patriarchy. The patriarchy hurts both men and women in a way, and that is why men need to help women combat misogyny.
This is something both sides of this debate often fail to acknowledge but there is a lot of great feminist literature on the subject
They say historically the greatest threat to the safety of women has been men. So I just be letting them rock with the "men are violent" "men are trash" s*** online. It don't be applying to me cause I don't be threatening them and I'm not violent with them.
Also all that misandrist s*** is online. What I look like complaining about women "hurting my feelings" online when women gotta deal with wild ass s*** from men on a daily basis in real life?
Y’all gotta talk to more women and realize the s*** you see on social media isn’t that deep at all. Damn y’all really need b****es in your life and I’m saying that respectfully.
I had heard stories from girls but brushed them off. I thought they were seeing stuff that wasn't there or making it sound worse than it really was. But in 2019, two college girls were brutally raped and murdered in my city. One of them was at my college and it started a whole dialogue. Women were coming forward with stories on social media. Dudes I went to high school with were being exposed. That's when I realized how widespread and bad things actually are. And since then, I can't unnotice it.
Everyday, I see a woman being catcalled and annoyed by some random guy when they're just walking down the street. I notice how men are selfish pieces of s***, even to the women they are involved with and claim to love. We just need to do better, we honestly don't deserve women
what country are you from? that sounds terrible. we had a lot of cases like that in my country too, but sadly answer to them a lot of the times is "damn she is so dumb, he is obviously crazy, why would u go out with him" etc
thank you for this story, this actually makes sense now. the only friend I had that understand the case somewhat fully from young age was the one who had a sister, and they were really close. so he could see all the stuff women are going through.
sadly men just cant see that stuff by themselves coz of being comfortable on that spot they're given and just the second they see woman saying this stuff they get so damn hurt. and its actually understandable in a way, but still tbh gives me "im ignorant f*** and im not planning to understand anything" vibes.
but actually understanding this made it so much easier to understand who is safe to talk to and who is not ready yet.
would be nice to live in a world where I didnt have to ask all of this questions before meeting a guy :) maybe it gets better some day
Only thing that bothers me are the rare extreme misandrists who cheer at male suicide rates, didn't think they really existed until I saw it first-hand
Otherwise 'Men are trash' stuff doesn't bother me at all, men treat women pretty badly in all kinds of ways overall and I see it as a pretty easy conclusion to arrive at after a lifetime of normalised mistreatment
People ITT are saying men who 'put up with this' are 'spineless' like what's your preferred alternative lol? 'Men are trash' 'Actually we're not, we're very cool'
Manual labor
Expecting to push through everything with hardships because you’re a man
Provide for yourself
Learning when to show your feelings and how to control them
Dealing with other men
Rape and other forms of sexual assault
Constant harassment from men while just going about your day (I'm not kidding, women been dealing with this even since we started wearing masks)
Harsher beauty standards
Less job opportunities and discrimination in the workplace
Periods, Pregnancy and child birth
Dealing with other women (because I think this point you tried to make was stupid)
Promiscuity and sexual liberation frowned upon, by both men and other women
Dating is actually harder for women (as men we find someone attractive and are in almost all cases the one to initiate. A girl sees an attractive guy and just has to hope he makes a move because a woman acting first could be seen as easy/desperate)
Periods alone is way worse than your entire list
loser post
just true tho, la regle du jeu
who is wise? one who learns from every man
What color pill subreddit did you get this bullshit from
it's a dialectical sublation of various thinkers' postulations
what's untrue about it
it's a dialectical sublation of various thinkers' postulations
what's untrue about it
Put the thesaurus down and go talk to a woman IRL
it's a dialectical sublation of various thinkers' postulations
what's untrue about it
I agree with some of the evolutionary perspectives you provided ITT but I also get major tips fedora vibes from your posts
Put the thesaurus down and go talk to a woman IRL
man you seem to think people can't compartmentalize
i can post on ktt and try to have a conversation with interlocutors who don't just point and sputter
and i can "talk to a woman IRL"
it's actually not that hard for people who possess metacognition
Well, it’s not all too different from why most people interpret racial commentary differently depending on who it comes from.
I’m not saying you can’t take offense, but it reads to me as willful ignorance to not note a difference between women generally critiquing men and vice versa
I agree with some of the evolutionary perspectives you provided ITT but I also get major tips fedora vibes from your posts
i mean that's fair but i really don't "hate" or "resent" women at all like that kind of guy
i just want to discuss why relations between men and women are the way they are, which is partially influenced by our "animal" instincts as much as cultural stimuli
……….
Just know losers didn’t become the way they are because of men or themselves btw
Youre
literally blaming women and saying that they are at fault that men exist who despise them and objectivy them online.
S*** man just replace any kind of word with loser in your sentence
Not blaming women they are just the reason f*** are you talking about? And no it’s not every woman’s fault and no the ones who get hurt by them usually aren’t even the ones who are the cause. Get your head out of your ass
You’re trying too hard
You could have literally said the same thing with 60-70% less words
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Lol they delete the post
Only thing that bothers me are the rare extreme misandrists who cheer at male suicide rates, didn't think they really existed until I saw it first-hand
Otherwise 'Men are trash' stuff doesn't bother me at all, men treat women pretty badly in all kinds of ways overall and I see it as a pretty easy conclusion to arrive at after a lifetime of normalised mistreatment
People ITT are saying men who 'put up with this' are 'spineless' like what's your preferred alternative lol? 'Men are trash' 'Actually we're not, we're very cool'
alternative to this - "damn we are s***, I see the problem, we have to do something." and understanding the problem is already doing something
I have plenty of male friends who are trying to protect women when they can, who are asking if they are okay when they look suspiciously too wasted in the club, or they seem uncomfortable with a man, reporting man doing pictures under skirts and etc. and that helps a lot, really, and I love them with my whole heart, and this type of men is the only type that I can feel safe with in one room
this is the alternative, and it works well because u can show some of the men with another point of view what is wrong and why women say stuff like that, because a lot of the times they wont listen to woman, but maybe will listen to a man