Sep 8, 2021People complain about how music is trash now or they r «bOrN in The WronG GeNerAtIon» or whatever.
I mean our harmonic vocabulary is the biggest its ever been.
Besides one could make a sound argument for popular music/stream amounts.
As an example:One could argue that Ed Sheeran is better than Frank Ocean.
Because Ed’s music/product is more palettable to the masses and attracting more people. I disagree of course but:Whats the best product?
The product you love subjectively and most others dont appreciate? Or the half assed pop music that the majority of people find decent.
Sep 8, 2021
ramiyou're speaking purely out of subjectivity
what you like does not deem quality
Yes, I believe music and music quality are subjective.
- Sep 8, 2021·1 reply
PinkANDWhitethinking about music as a product isn't fair imo so when people say "the free market always wins - sales = quality" is extremely stupid
the comparison we should be making (since music is an art form) is the difference between kitsch and high art
so just bc kitsch is mass produced and is produced to be popular that makes it better than a single piece by Monet?
I know this thread is lowkey about CLB and this s*** is getting corny but CLB = kitsch
But to me, you’re arguing what makes something “better” to which I’d say yes, sales are not a factor. But determining if something is of good quality (not in comparison to anything, just good quality or bad quality) I think sales and popularity can be 1 metric out of many.
Sep 8, 2021
martian masterSales, now more than ever, represent what people are listening to. Streams are incorporated into sales.
If a project is doing crazy numbers, even outside the first week, obviously people want to listen to it.
And if it wasn't good, why would people listen?
There's definitley a correlation
"if sitting on your coach all day isn't good for you, why do so many people do it?"
Sep 8, 2021·1 replyBlenderBluidBut to me, you’re arguing what makes something “better” to which I’d say yes, sales are not a factor. But determining if something is of good quality (not in comparison to anything, just good quality or bad quality) I think sales and popularity can be 1 metric out of many.
This nuanced opinion is correct, but your thread title implies that sales alone is a valid metric
- Sep 8, 2021Zach LaBeam
This nuanced opinion is correct, but your thread title implies that sales alone is a valid metric
“Why do we say sales don’t equal quality” I mean I don’t see how it implies sales are the end all be all, just an indicator that people don’t want to regard but my bad 🤷🏾♂️
I also think my initial post clears up any implications since I say low sales don’t speak to quality
Sep 8, 2021
YA BOY ACEThis is a better example
no its not? there from different years by a lot. so its not even comparable. also the godfather sold well...
- Sep 8, 2021CLB Fractions
why does the opinion of 10 white people outweigh the majority?
it's not about the academy it's about most oscar nom/winning films are actually artistic and have depth and not just "we want to please as many ppl to get as much money as possible"
- Sep 8, 2021YA BOY ACE
There is a cost advantage to McDonald’s over higher quality burgers, though. It takes the same amount of time and money to listen to anyone’s music, so there is equivalent cost and the choice is simply up to the listener.
you could say the same thing about time used to listen to each track/album
either way mcdonalds is not know for quality, yet it sells millions of units
Sep 8, 20211887Music all costs the same for someone to listen. How do you compare that to Burgers lol.
You could say they can’t be compared because the price of all music is the same, but one could also argue that there’s still “cheapness” to the quality of McDonalds in the same way there’s “cheapness” to the quality of certain popular music
Or something lol
Sep 9, 2021Just listen to the music you like man why it gotta be the most popular I don't get it?