Let's think abt the George Floyd s***. yea that's bullshit republican talking points, sad 2 see bruh parroting that. Again, maybe there's more interest in the taboo aspect of it than anything else, I mean we're "not supposed to" question the official story, even though there is room for doubt, as there is in every single story ever told.

It's not like asking questions would change the facts, I mean there was a toxicologist's a***ysis in the court case, the facts are all there. If you look into it, you will find that, yeah, Floyd was killed, and d*** overdose was not the cause of death. But regardless, we're told not to look into it, and any questioning of the situation is met with harsh backlash. To Kanye, that's a huge green light telling him to dig deeper, a sort of "there must be something they don't want me to know" feeling.

See, the thing about ideologies is that no ideology is perfect. Every single ideology compromises on accuracy in favor of consistency and simplicity, this is just the way it is. Kanye is picking up on the flaws of the rigid American neoliberal ideology behind the Democrat Party. For example, it is very important to the neoliberal that George Floyd was a genuine martyr. This is so integral to their framework that even considering that it might not be true scares the s*** out of them. They're right anyways, they've got nothing to lose by letting questions get asked, but they're too scared to realize this.

Ye's picking up on this fear, and he's seeing the ideological groupthink and conformity amongst Democrats. He's going, "Who's behind this ideology? What aren't they telling me?" These are fair questions to ask.
Unfortunately, there's a huge pitfall here that must be avoided. So many people reach this point, acknowledge the flawed ideological nature of the democrats, and then assume that whatever's opposing the democrats must be the way to go. Huge mistake. Republicans are just as ideological and just as big on groupthink and conformity, we just don't see their ideology in the media as much so it's a little harder to notice.

I'm torn here, because I see Ye trying to fight against ideology. I want to say "go for it!" and interpret the s*** he's doing and saying as nothing more than tools used to pick apart neoliberal ideology. Yes, it is weird that Ye can s*** on black people with no repercussions, but as soon as he mentions Jewish people its over. That's worth thinking about, there are definitely questions that should be asked about that which we "don't get to ask". That being said, in his wake, Ye is propping up another ideology, namely that of the American right wing, which is equally as, if not more, damaging than neoliberal ideology.

In short, I get where Ye's coming from. I will defend his intentions, but the execution is too sloppy and poorly thought out for me to get behind. I 100% get being frustrated and upset at Kanye, but I don't think anything beyond that is really warranted. I won't hate someone who has good intentions.

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I know probably just ignorance, but I see people posting about the definition of Semite as a defense for Ye. That he can't be anti-Semitic because of that definition. Is there any weight to that defense?

Kanye is not semetic tho? Unless youre a black isrealite

Yeah I agree with your point. I’m not gonna defend the nigga but his intentions are honest and have no malice.

He just wants Black people to own Black media, black products and black art but he points at Jews instead of Old Whites.

Yeah I know, but they are using this link and reposting the image

britannica.com/topic/Semite

And what is their point?

ye is not fighting against ideology

he himself is draped in it

Didn't read op but this stuff is really embarrassing I agree

" for the prehistoric origins of Semitic-speaking populations, there remains no archaeological or scientific evidence of a common Semitic people. Because Semitic-speaking peoples do not share any traits aside from language, use of the term “Semite” to refer to the broad range of Semitic-speaking peoples has fallen out of favour."

Some people I saw online were highlighting this. My thinking is they were agreeing with Ye can't be Anti-Semitic because he's black or he's not targeting a specific race of people.

Idk I'm trying to understand it as much as you are right now lol

these r not mutually exclusive.

Ye is thoroughly soaked in one ideology and trying to tear down another.

you’re really dumb if you think all anti-systemic ideologies are somehow equivalent in their aims

Its f***ing idiotic. It’s like claiming ‘black people’ dont exist because of the rich cultural diversity between descendents of slavery, therefore you cant be anti-black. Semetic is just an European term for jews, basically calling them Middle Easterners.

I know youre not defending it, just mad at how stupid ppl can be

Kanye alt?

Good post

where are u getting that take from?

I don't think every anti-systemic ideology is the same. Besides, I'm not even talking about anti-systemic ideologies. Democrats and Republicans are both pro-status quo.

I'm just saying Ye is gunning at Neolib ideology. I think that's an honorable goal, he's just going about it in a very sloppy manner.

So are literal nazis also just sloppy in their pursuit of an honorable goal?

Yes, but gunning at neoliberalism from what angle?

You could do it from either the left or the right, and the right usually depends on their “anti-capitalism” to stem from bigoted hatreds of the Other rather than a materialist a***ysis of structure

The issue for them isn’t the exploitation of workers, but who is winning from that exploitation and how it is “degenerate” for its more culturally progressive turn with changing demographics, theres a reason the expression "globohomo" is used in these circles

they equate progressiveness with capitalism in itself

dude this is not a difficult question lmao

The Nazis were definitely really sloppy, sure. But their goals were also pretty much as far as u can get from honorable lol.

This shouldn't come as a suprise to you, but there's not rlly much redeemable there lol

So what is the difference between the goal of a neonazi and kanye rn, tangible?

That lex fridman podcast was better to understand what he means. He's still a dumbass but that was more coherent than the other ones

why must it be from either the left or the right?

I personally believe the gunning at neoliberal ideology comes first, and the angle is taken up afterwards. Someone who is freshly disillusioned with the Democrat Party might end up a right winger, or maybe they'll end up a communist, I mean it just depends on which ideology gets ahold of them next.