In terms of production and their own albums, I feel like DJ Quik is at the same level.

He didn't have a Snoop or Eminem on his side, but his skills are just as good as Dr. Dre imo.

Was Dr. Dre's mixing what made him have more shine?

because he is way more regional and rarely gave his production to people outside of CA

meanwhile Dre has literally worked with everyone and gave his sig style to all coasts and sides - plus dre has also established other artists that went global while quik hasnt - but quik is still very influential and important for CA in general and helped many CA artists

also marketing

tl;dr: quik is too regional compared to dre and doesnt have nearly as much universal accomplishments as dre, but he is still very important in his own right and of course is very skilled in general

quik is in the convo tho when you want to have a real producer talk with other people that know the talk

this the one.

I fw dj quik waaay more than dr dre just for personal listening

Underrated genius

“Rhythm-al-ism” is better than anything Dre has ever put out, tbh.

Because IRL he's a crashout king

Good to know. Do you think if he collabed with more artists across the US he might've had the same level of respect as Dre?

Also, who are some other real producers like DJ Quik (really like his Safe and Sound album)?

what did he do?

Dr. Dre is a producer in the music industry sense while Quik is more of a traditional hip hop producer.

Basically, Dre produced many classic beats on his own but he's also used many co-producers to help execute his vision on the boards and he's executive produced many classic albums too.

DJ Quik is a better beatmaker and composer for sure but his sound is quite a bit more limited than Dre's and he hasn't really had any comparable impact.

There is no "Chronic" with Quik that has impacted not just the hip hop world but pop culture. Many other rap albums including Ready To Die have drawn strong influence from the Chronic. It's become a benchmark for many producers. Quik doesn't have a comparable album.

Also, crews matter. Quik mainly associated with "alright" rappers while Dre was able to get some of the biggest names in hip hop such as NWA, Eazy, DOC, Snoop, Em, Michelle, 50, Game, Kendrick, etc. to help execute their visions well on top of giving them classic beats.

Also, Dre has some of the best mixing and engineering in hip hop history. 2001 may as well go down in history as one of the cleanest mixed rap albums ever.

Like I said, Quik is good. He's still a legend but Dre is more of the full package. He's done soul sampled beats with Straight Outta Compton, the electronic sound with World Class Wrecking Cru, R&B beats with Michelle and some other R&B singers, the G Funk sound with Chronic/Niggas4Life/Doggstyle, orchestral sounding beats on 2001, Neo Soul influenced beats on Compton, and he even experimented a bit on Missionary.

Dre's music is far more ubiquitous to hip hop than Quik's at this point. In Da Club, Gin & Juice, Real Slim Shady, and Still Dre alone are some of the most iconic and timeless beats in rap history. Quik has classics too but not to that scale.

It's apples and oranges at the end of the day. Quik is a talented beatmaker and musician who has a specialty that works very well for him and has given him his own distinct sound in West Coast hip hop.

Dre is basically a modern Quincy Jones. He's a visionary whose great at making his own beats but can also make magic in the studio with clean mixing, co producers, variety, and timeless sounds that stand the test of time and have universal appeal.

Street Gospel by Suga Free is my favorite album he produced from top to bottom

All good points.

You don't think Safe and Sound is at the same level as The Chronic or 2001 (just in terms of musicality - not impact)?

And when people say the mixing is clean on 2001, can you give a breakdown for someone who doesn't know much about mixing and mastering? I can't fully tell the difference too since I just listen with AirPods and headphones most of the time

When Kendrick does a tape with his producer goat he’ll get more respect

Musically, I think Safe & Sound is on par with those albums but the difference in impact is hard to ignore.

Also, I'm no mixing expert but I'm basically referring to how clean and crisp the sound of 2001 is compared to many other rap albums in its time period or in general. The sound of the album is borderline cinematic with its EQ and complete lack of distortion.

Can you give examples in 2001 where it sounds really clean?

And what were some albums that came out during that time that didn't sound too good (from a mixing/mastering standpoint)?

Quik just didn’t have the hits or impact Dre did, simply put.

He a better producer then Dre though in my book IYKYK

Dre’s ghost producers went harder than Quick so yeah

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You kinda mentioned.. maybe not the sole reason but one of the reasons. Quick remained relatively as a West coast legend but he didn’t have those protégés that he could bring in the game and keep himself relevant in that way as Dre did.

Talent wise he could very well be the best producer out of Cali

Watch the defiant ones on Netflix

I think everyone has explained it well but Quik def a legend that deserve his flowers

It’s not up for debate. No way S&S is even in the same paragraph as The Chronic.

You got 2001 on CD? That might be the best way to understand

Quik so underrated