seems like movies, like Django unchained, are the only context where it is considered appropriate for a white person to say the n word. obviously they are playing a character and just pretending to be racist, but is that necessarily so different from white rappers pretending to a thug and saying it in songs? or for a white person to rap along and say it outloud?
I don't get the double standard
โor for a white person to rap along and say it outloud?โ
Are you really comparing what paid actors do for money to what regular people do in their personal lives?
โseems like movies, like Django unchained, are the only context where it is considered appropriate for a white person to say the n word.โ
Out of all the modern day movies where white people say that word, even among other QT films, this dude brings up a slave movie.
โbut is that necessarily so different from white rappers pretending to be a thugโ
I see here the caucasity jumps out
โor for a white person to rap along and say it outloud?โ
Are you really comparing what paid actors do for money to what regular people do in their personal lives?
am i comparing them? not really. im asking you to explain why one is fundamentally wrong while the other is not, preferably in a civil manner.
if you cannot do so, then leave the thread kindly.
am i comparing them? not really. im asking you to explain why one is fundamentally wrong while the other is not, preferably in a civil manner.
if you cannot do so, then leave the thread kindly.
You want someone to explain the difference between a performance and real life?
am i comparing them? not really. im asking you to explain why one is fundamentally wrong while the other is not, preferably in a civil manner.
if you cannot do so, then leave the thread kindly.
What is the correlation between a slave movie and a white rap fan saying the N-word at a rap concert?
You want someone to explain the difference between a performance and real life?
the point is that we are willing to accept that context is important for deciding when the term is racist, right? because an actor pretending to be racist isn't really racist, at least we would hope so.
so is a person rapping along with a song just pretending to be the rapper really being racist by using the word, or are they just pretending as well?
i think the answer is pretty obvious that in most cases, they have no real racist intent, so it's just a silly double standard to get upset about that
IMO
What is the correlation between a slave movie and a white rap fan saying the N-word at a rap concert?
what do you mean "what is the correlation"?
that's not the point of the question. read my most recent response
the point is that we are willing to accept that context is important for deciding when the term is racist, right? because an actor pretending to be racist isn't really racist, at least we would hope so.
so is a person rapping along with a song just pretending to be the rapper really being racist by using the word, or are they just pretending as well?
i think the answer is pretty obvious that in most cases, they have no real racist intent, so it's just a silly double standard to get upset about that
IMO
You were talking about white rappers themselves, not just fans
one is a reenactment of history whereas the other is unnecessary and ignorant
i get what you are saying but there is nothing inherent about films that makes them historically accurate or respectful. they can be just as ignorant and unnecessary as s***ty music. it's not really the medium
You were talking about white rappers themselves, not just fans
the argument is basically the same for either
it could also apply to history teachers saying it in class in a historical context, which you sometimes hear people getting angry over
Remember when u said you knew people who though lt American History X was a recruitment video?
An actor has a higher level of narrative dissociation in saying the word than in the other contexts
this americana disrespect is insane
Remember when u said you knew people who though lt American History X was a recruitment video?
I said they thought it was cool for the wrong reasons
I mean the notion that they use to get away with it is that an actor is simply playing a character, whereas a rapper is supposed to rapping about real life experiences (even tho that general is not the case).
An actor has a higher level of narrative dissociation in saying the word than in the other contexts
this is the best answer so far ITT
thank you for contributing. i think you could be on to something but i feel that this is not necessarily true, while it may be true most of the time
the actors are literally playing characters
i said this in the OP. would you like to try again and say something a bit more meaningful?
the argument is basically the same for either
it could also apply to history teachers saying it in class in a historical context, which you sometimes hear people getting angry over
So a white actor being paid for work, a white rapper expressing themselves, and white fans of music saying that word are all on the same level of scrutiny?