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  • Nov 21, 2019
    SHAQUILLE

    That’s with everything. Athletes, actors, etc

    Then it needs to stop.

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    Part of illmatic’s legacy is that it has no filler, it’s perfection. With this in mind I say Scorpion

  • Nov 21, 2019
    2words

    Part of illmatic’s legacy is that it has no filler, it’s perfection. With this in mind I say Scorpion

    Here’s your quote

  • Nov 21, 2019
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    Fahim

    It's when you need constant reassurance and validation to justify your liking of said album is headassery at its finest.

    Tbh these conversations have gone on for every era, probably getting worse in the 70s when fans got more focused on the album format. Fans being able to get their views out there online like they can now probably just makes it feel more intense.

    If you go back to a lot of the milestone moments from other decades, you hear artists or critics going 'this is the Beatles of this generation' or 'this is the new Bob Dylan or James Brown' etc. etc. That's just the same as people talking about Illmatic or the purple tape

  • Nov 21, 2019
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    Remember when earl was “the next Nas”

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    theDonandOnly

    Tbh these conversations have gone on for every era, probably getting worse in the 70s when fans got more focused on the album format. Fans being able to get their views out there online like they can now probably just makes it feel more intense.

    If you go back to a lot of the milestone moments from other decades, you hear artists or critics going 'this is the Beatles of this generation' or 'this is the new Bob Dylan or James Brown' etc. etc. That's just the same as people talking about Illmatic or the purple tape

    And now with the advent of the internet and nobodies having platforms, it's gotten worse.

  • Nov 21, 2019

    imagine not thinking this is easily one of the best hip hop albums of all time

  • Nov 21, 2019

    on another note, does anyone have an interpretation of why he’s holding a white baby on the cover? i can’t really find an explanation anywhere and im pretty stumped myself

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    Fahim

    And now with the advent of the internet and nobodies having platforms, it's gotten worse.

    It hasn't really gotten worse tho, it's just more obvious now. This is just a way people talk about music, most people want a point of reference, it makes it easier for them to talk about careers, songs or albums. Everyone uses what came the era before to understand the current era in anything and also I think it's just measuring legacy really

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    Illmatic still sounds fresh and you can listen to at all times

    Tpab just exhausting af

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    theDonandOnly

    It hasn't really gotten worse tho, it's just more obvious now. This is just a way people talk about music, most people want a point of reference, it makes it easier for them to talk about careers, songs or albums. Everyone uses what came the era before to understand the current era in anything and also I think it's just measuring legacy really

    Nah it has gotten worse, historical revisionism, people with no credibility at the forefront, yakubification/culture vultures, and since rap is as mainstream as it is, now corporations are more involved than ever.

  • Nov 21, 2019
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    theDonandOnly

    I just thought people meant to get the praise/consensus that Illmatic got

    GKMC definitely more similar tho if that's what people are going on. TPAB, even tho he's different in style as a MC, feels like the most 80s he's sounded too when you think about MCs like Chuck D

    Maybe you got the right interpretation, but I instantly thought about comparing illmatic to gkmc, cause I think that years from now people are gonna refer to GKMC as this generation's illmatic, both in quality and theme. Doesn't mean either of them was the best rap album of their respective generation, but they're both iconic and amazing as projects, so them respectively representing the 90s and the 2010s is great for hip hop.
    And yeah, forgot about public enemy, kendrick probably took some notes from Chuck d

  • Nov 21, 2019

    Almight so exists

  • Nov 21, 2019

    Gonna have to listen again tnight

  • Nov 21, 2019
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    Not really, this generation isn’t as invested into lyricism as the 90s

    Rap is more diverse now

    Only Kendrick stans and hip hop heads will be checking for this

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    Fahim

    Nah it has gotten worse, historical revisionism, people with no credibility at the forefront, yakubification/culture vultures, and since rap is as mainstream as it is, now corporations are more involved than ever.

    You mean like brands? The big rock and pop artists did loads of brand deals. It's not how people see 'rock' looking back but it totally happened The ones who didn't do it weren't as popular. A lot of the punk bands got involved too, like the frontman of the S***Pistols doing butter adverts And as much as hip hop has a material-centric point of view sometimes, it's also been much better at putting social issues at the forefront of some of it's biggest issues, so I don't really get why hip hop is more corporate. If anything, it's probably less

    Who has no credibility? There's idiots in every era, that's not time exclusive

    In a way it seems revisionist to glorify the past music eras. I do think we are lacking a few GOATs that maybe the 60s or 70s had over us but we've witnessed some greats too.

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    Stardust

    Maybe you got the right interpretation, but I instantly thought about comparing illmatic to gkmc, cause I think that years from now people are gonna refer to GKMC as this generation's illmatic, both in quality and theme. Doesn't mean either of them was the best rap album of their respective generation, but they're both iconic and amazing as projects, so them respectively representing the 90s and the 2010s is great for hip hop.
    And yeah, forgot about public enemy, kendrick probably took some notes from Chuck d

    GKMC and TPAB one of the best back to backs ever

  • Nov 21, 2019
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    theDonandOnly

    GKMC and TPAB one of the best back to backs ever

    On God
    Can't wait for next album bro, we can't even imagine what he's cooking up in the studio, I'm ready to get blown away again

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    Stardust

    On God
    Can't wait for next album bro, we can't even imagine what he's cooking up in the studio, I'm ready to get blown away again

    Yeah I didn't like DAMN outside of my favourite tracks but he didn't fall off like some made out. Peak Kendrick is all in that album in lots of moments it just doesn't come together as well as a vision imo but in a lot of ways it felt like the relief he needed after two very intense albums (Three really counting Untitled Unmastered )

    He gonna be back soon tho

  • Nov 21, 2019

    If i was the president
    Id pay my mommas rent
    Free my homies and them
    Bulletproof my chevy doors
    Lay in the white house
    And get high
    Lord
    Whoever though?
    Master, take the chains off me

  • Nov 21, 2019
    theDonandOnly

    Yeah I didn't like DAMN outside of my favourite tracks but he didn't fall off like some made out. Peak Kendrick is all in that album in lots of moments it just doesn't come together as well as a vision imo but in a lot of ways it felt like the relief he needed after two very intense albums (Three really counting Untitled Unmastered )

    He gonna be back soon tho

    I personally really enjoyed damn, it's in my top 10 albums of the decade lol. But I kinda understand why someone would be disappointed in an album without an overarching theme, especially after heavily conceptual albums with strong narratives like gkmc and tpab. Also, songs like love, God and loyalty are not songs we're accustomed to get from him, so I get why someone wouldn't enjoy them.
    Like you said though, the highs on that album show kendrick is still a fantastic artist, so we just have to wait for him to f*** the game up once again

  • Nov 21, 2019
    603God

    It’s not even a rap album. It’s a funk album.

    And it only has 3 good songs, maybe 4.

    Y’all just saying s*** lmfao

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    canon

    Remember when earl was “the next Nas”

    And he surpassed him

  • Nov 21, 2019
    Notmyfirst

    And he surpassed him

    This ain’t it

  • Nov 21, 2019

    No, MBDTF will