you sound so stupid goodness gracious

And u a b****

Edit: ok I realize I may have been wrong. Apologies 🧎🏾

When americans talk about uk music

yeah i feel like producers like Skream are way more embedded in london's scene. for a lot of these producers their music will just have felt like second nature from when they were growing up. There was a lot of crossover with producers like that with other UK acts from JME to La roux. UK drill has a uk perspective to it that Wondagurl just doesn't. I feel like the tweet put itt by op is probably an american who hasn't heard of the stuff from the 2000s and late 90s that didn't chart. Also nobody invented sliding basslines in recent history

Crazy how you can hear elements of wiley still in modern london producers just in some of the sounds they use even tho drill lowkey killed his genre for the last couple years.

lmao i miss Ed so much. And when Russell was riling everyone up by going on TV and talking a load of sometimes misinformed s***e but managing to land on some truth by the end of his neverending sentences

You can go back even further to IDM or big beat.

of course. i just meant for these producers some of that s*** was probably the stuff playing on the radio they were listening or the raves they (or their older friends/family) were going to at the time.

exactly, this sound and its elements are just really domestic for UK scene.

Trip hop too

Need an 808melo, Mktheplug, or m1 interview to drop so someone can ask them their fav producer/influences and they’ll confirm everything I’ve said itt. I’m willing to bet my SEED they gon say Wondagurl

Wondagurl didnt birth s*** about UK Drill, and neither did the boston rappers make it sound good. you sound like goofies.

nobody dissing chief Keef for its influence on drill because they cant... ITS FACTS. Same way the 808's splitting sound was crafted in the UK and outside of pop smoke. UK niggas flow waaaaaay better on it. thats just FACTS USA man cant keep up with the beat

Better get yo nut ready then

Nigga COME GET IT !!

You think I’m scared COME GET THAT S*** ITS RIGHT HERE P****

the same people with this take are the people who listen to one Wiley white label production from the early 2000s and go 'oh that's just alt hip hop not a new sound'

Bristol stand up

I reread OP and he's basically describing 90s aphex twin damn

UK been puttin in the work

lmfao bro there's no way. lowkey they might not even know who she is you'd be surprised how many people at the top of uk music rn have patchy knowledge on things from other countries.

They reference the UK so much in their music. For example I keep hearing drill beats with the same exact sound effects used by every grime producer 15+ years ago, not Wondagurl like wiley's ice rink click. I don't see them culturally paying homage to anything remotely related to Wondagurl like that. Drill killed every other UK sound but it's still connected to them. It's the same as how grime killed garage but a lot of the grime people were into garage before and most of them could all make garage too.

Garage always had the craziest drums

Aphex Twin cornwall right? But still Bristol were unstoppable for trip hop and other producers in that early 90s era for Portishead, Nellee Hooper (bjork's first album man ) and massive attack alone

Aphex is cornwall and part of the stupidly named genre "IDM" with duded like autechre who are from madchester

Yeah, I’m looking through the thread and I’m hearing some consistent sounds in UK Drill that have been around for decades. I just think it’s not insane to think that the young teenaged drill producers, especially the ones that crossed over into NY Drill who worked w Pop Smoke were at least somewhat influenced by Wonda. I do change my stance though I was wrong for the most part it seems

Fr. just one of the influences that got carried over to the rest of uk music

we need an even bigger garage comeback. but even with artists like kano you could still hear the garage on every album even when he had hip hop beats the vocal chops or some of the fills would sound like garage. it's been nice to see aj and jorja have some garage hits but i need even more

Talking of garage MJ cole has made some killer tracks these last few years that mostly weren't garage but were all great. Check out his song with Kojey Radical Soak It Up

just dropping by to say I always enjoy your posts because you know so much s***

maybe when trying to make it work in the US but the original inspiration i highly doubt it

you gotta understand bro if you not from the uk it's like a cultural thing. all the sub genres spill out of each other because it's all based on a certain type of london music that wasn't always the most mainstream but you cared about because of where you grew up or what raves you (or your older brother) went too. Or like pirate radio in the very early days before a lot of our artists had deals etc.

i feel like you're actually ahead of your time in a way. like now with the internet and the way UK MCs not from London have been accepted in a whole new way (aitch, bugzy, meekz etc. some of the biggest rn even if i'm not a massive fan of them), i think the music will become more global in where it's favourite producers are from.

The main influence outside of the UK on uk music to me is soundsystem culture. Hip hop sometimes is a big cultural influence in abstract way. Sometimes it's specific tho. I feel like Giggs had a big influence on the newer drill artists and his biggest hit earlier on his career was over a Dre beat.

The biggest US artist with a direct influence on UK music genuinely might be 3 6 mafia (in the 2000s because of dizzee's impact) not Wondagurl tbh. I love her tho.