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  • Kr0niic ☘️
    Jun 19, 2023
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    NobodyWins

    We do a little trolling

  • Jun 19, 2023
    Kr0niic

    We do a little trolling

  • Jun 19, 2023
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    rami

    ppl bought ps4s and xbones

    now they boujee LMFAO

  • Jun 19, 2023
    Kengi

    20 fps is crazy man just make the graphics worse like wtf

    CPU and GPU are two different things

    ITS ABOUT THE THINGS INTERACTING not the graphics.

    This has been explained so many times

  • Jun 19, 2023
    Kr0niic

    People don’t seem to understand cpu limits where no matter the resolution it will still struggle to hit 60 due to all the things going on in the game (see starfield)

    this can be explained a million times and they won't grasp it. even with the clear sandwich example of someone going ship to ship planet to planet gathering sandwiches. The game remembering all of that . Object permanence. bodies not disappearing from what we know

  • Jun 19, 2023
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    Nayuta

    Why on earth would you think that lol

    i feel as if most casual gamers just expect 4k as the standard when playing on a bigger screens but starfield as a game should have performance mode regardless

  • Jun 19, 2023
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    slime wrld

    i feel as if most casual gamers just expect 4k as the standard when playing on a bigger screens but starfield as a game should have performance mode regardless

    its really about he game remembering everything and not deleting . So bodies and destruction or whatever the player does to the world is permanently changed. its not just a graphical issue.

  • Nayuta 🐯
    Jun 19, 2023
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    HaroldsChicken

    its really about he game remembering everything and not deleting . So bodies and destruction or whatever the player does to the world is permanently changed. its not just a graphical issue.

    I’ll need to see it confirmed on PC builds first if anything with lower or equal specs is able to run it at 60 then we have a problem

  • Nayuta 🐯
    Jun 19, 2023
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    slime wrld

    i feel as if most casual gamers just expect 4k as the standard when playing on a bigger screens but starfield as a game should have performance mode regardless

    Casuals playing sports games and battle royales with mediocre graphics I don’t think they’re graphic w****s

  • Jun 19, 2023
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    Nayuta

    I’ll need to see it confirmed on PC builds first if anything with lower or equal specs is able to run it at 60 then we have a problem

    are you not understanding what I am saying?

    -It is not a graphical issue so much as SCOPE. Object Permanence on that many planets. Ability to move objects. Ships remembering where you last placed objects and everything else. Much of the Direct made clear why it is 30FPS. Even the God of war dev explained it to DreamcastGuy. There have been many even playstation people who fully grasp the why

  • Jun 19, 2023
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    Nayuta

    Casuals playing sports games and battle royales with mediocre graphics I don’t think they’re graphic w****s

    the consoles came out promoting 4k(60 ) even on the box and 4k tvs aren’t even expensive anymore so thats the bar graphic w**** or not for people tbh

  • Jun 19, 2023
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    slime wrld

    the consoles came out promoting 4k(60 ) even on the box and 4k tvs aren’t even expensive anymore so thats the bar graphic w**** or not for people tbh

    lol they not going on digital foundry if they are casual they are booting a game and saying "this looks good" or doesn't

  • Nayuta 🐯
    Jun 19, 2023
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    slime wrld

    the consoles came out promoting 4k(60 ) even on the box and 4k tvs aren’t even expensive anymore so thats the bar graphic w**** or not for people tbh

    Xbox also came out talking about ray tracing and 60 fps and look where we are lol

  • Jun 19, 2023
    HaroldsChicken

    now they boujee LMFAO

    nah fr cause wtf is this question lol

    just enjoy the damn games

  • Nayuta 🐯
    Jun 19, 2023
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    HaroldsChicken

    are you not understanding what I am saying?

    -It is not a graphical issue so much as SCOPE. Object Permanence on that many planets. Ability to move objects. Ships remembering where you last placed objects and everything else. Much of the Direct made clear why it is 30FPS. Even the God of war dev explained it to DreamcastGuy. There have been many even playstation people who fully grasp the why

    They essentially stated in PR speak that the game would look like s*** if they included a performance mode, and picked graphics at 30 to not get laughed out the building.

    In typical Bethesda fashion it's no doubt that this will get a "enhanced edition" with performance mode down the road on Xbox.

  • Jun 19, 2023
    Nayuta

    They essentially stated in PR speak that the game would look like s*** if they included a performance mode, and picked graphics at 30 to not get laughed out the building.

    In typical Bethesda fashion it's no doubt that this will get a "enhanced edition" with performance mode down the road on Xbox.

    its not about graphics

    • Digital Foundry has stated this
      -God War devs
    • Even Colin of playstation podcast

    without like machine learning or connection to online or some sort of cloud something I don't see a performance mode being rushed. Again its a lot of CPU.

    Scope wise on either console there have been very few console generation exclusive as in not on ps4 or xbox one. That truly demand more from the console scope wise.

    Starfield graphical style isn't focused on photorealism either way that is not the issue or the bottleneck. I really don't know how many times I can say this or how many people can tell you guys the same thing.

  • Jun 19, 2023
    HaroldsChicken

    lol they not going on digital foundry if they are casual they are booting a game and saying "this looks good" or doesn't

    nah but people know what 4k looks like now, it’s plastered all over retail stores but anything else is just jargon

  • Jun 19, 2023
    Nayuta

    Xbox also came out talking about ray tracing and 60 fps and look where we are lol

    you forgot they even used 8k aswell like that’s not even gonna be reality when the pro versions come out for these consoles

  • Jun 19, 2023

    Just got the shipping email should I start the return process

  • Jun 19, 2023
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    rami

    ppl bought ps4s and xbones

    This is the worst argument in this entire thread lmao

  • Jun 19, 2023
    Drezo

    This is the worst argument in this entire thread lmao

    it's not an argument. i'm sorry your brain registered it as such

  • Jun 20, 2023
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    Drezo

    This is the worst argument in this entire thread lmao

    Yes you should always want to see improvement in games but 30fps vs 60fps is kind of a balancing act of scope. Most of the major 60fps games doing genuinely new things that aren't cross gen are few. Many of the games running at 60fps could be possible on previous gen consoles.

  • Jun 20, 2023
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    HaroldsChicken

    Yes you should always want to see improvement in games but 30fps vs 60fps is kind of a balancing act of scope. Most of the major 60fps games doing genuinely new things that aren't cross gen are few. Many of the games running at 60fps could be possible on previous gen consoles.

    It's fine if there are outliers like Starfield but 60fps is a standard option now. Bro mentioned consoles from a decade ago that never even gave you the option

  • I’ll take mostly locked 30 over an uneven, choppy 40-60 any day. RDR2 is still one of the best 30fps experiences i’ve ever played on consoles, Rockstars mix of motion blur with perfect frame times feels and looks so good. If all the 30 fps games coming out were like that i’d be fine with it but with Starfield i’ve got a really bad feeling it’s gonna have uneven frames with tons of drops, hopefully Bethesda pulls through

  • Jun 21, 2023
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    Drezo

    It's fine if there are outliers like Starfield but 60fps is a standard option now. Bro mentioned consoles from a decade ago that never even gave you the option

    bro thats the joke , your own thread title says "only" lol, wydm option

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