CLB Wineboy

1y

Clock work.

Jetfuel

1y

because we have at least a f***ing decade of music from drake that you can look up on any relevant platform of your choice and do this research yourself

nobody owes you their time or to disprove anything

mos def is a great mc and even great mcs can drop takes that come from a place of personal preference - not everything any legend says is necessarily a fact

yung doodi

1y

You f***ing b****. Don’t you dare disrespect the mansdem with this stupid logic. So just because Drake has actual REAL hitters and Toronto grim reapers that would go to war for him now you wanna call it crashing out? No brother. You don’t understand the dark underworld of this Toronto street life so I’m gonna have to ask you kindly to shut the f*** up before the wassas have to DUN you.

This bald p**** Mos Def has no idea what he just got himself into, bro really needs to stay in Africa now because he’s scared of the 6ix

Cosmic Warrior

1y

80 pages

ktt2 would be a desert without drake

fiveprestos

1y

I agree but Mos Def would have to apply this post-capitalist logic to all the “abstract” rappers before Drake (Tyler,
Kanye, Pharrell come to mind). He won’t do it though in hopes of cashing another check off of being the signifier for wokeness in hip hop, even though he just performed in Dubai amidst their ongoing support for the Gaza genocide, which he shed tears over on live a month or two ago. Safe to assume he’d cash another check from LVMH in a heartbeat…

Also, every songwriter in contemporary music is “formulaic” because most songwriters these days write from the lens of their brand/entity before their lived experiences. By definition, Talib Kweli is just as formulaic as Nav. Old heads should be more pointed in their critique because complaining about hiphop as pop for longer than I’ve been alive has never sparked the cultural revolution that they’ve hope for

browser

1y

Tyler Kanye Pharrell absolutely do more to include themes beyond consumerism in their music

I agree that he probably wouldn’t go as hard on like Kanye because he’s gets to be the wokest guy in those types of circles

But Tyler I remember vividly rapped about race on CMIYGL, Kanye still throws you a socially conscious line every now and then at least prior to Vultures

Pharrell’s whole MO is being above his 2006-2009 persona although he is probably the worst offender with $40k LV jackets and s*** lol

WestSideWally

1y

People are being purposefully obtuse on both sides of this conversation.

It is not that Drake doesn’t rap well, but what is the content of the music? “Wick Man” is on of the songs that surprised me because we don’t hear Drake talk spirituality in music all that often, if ever.

The music is fun and we all care about Drake music, hence us being in this chat, but how often do we hear Drake mue that have scorned ex & materialist bars??

SinceKumbaya

1y

He also paid Drake to perform when he was on the come up.

When you don’t pander to these old haters they grow bitter

LaSean

1y

How us he an old hater if he helped someone on the comeup by putting money in his pocket and giving him exposure? Y'all just spin narratives

Oblivion X

1y

"Tyler Kanye Pharrell absolutely do more to include themes beyond consumerism in their music"

And drake doesn't especially if we're going on the idea that Tyler does ?

thekid187

1y

57pages, 1.4k replies

draketothe

browser

1y

I’ve never heard Drake make any observation about race except when it’s to deflect from criticism against him “I’m not black enough” and “meek mill Dissing me but cops killing niggas” lol

SinceKumbaya

1y

He also paid Drake to perform when he was on the come up.

When you don’t pander to these old haters they grow bitter

browser

1y

I’ve never heard Drake make any observation about race except when it’s to deflect from criticism against him “I’m not black enough” and “meek mill Dissing me but cops killing niggas” lol

browser

1y

I’ve never heard Drake make any observation about race except when it’s to deflect from criticism against him “I’m not black enough” and “meek mill Dissing me but cops killing niggas” lol

Oblivion X

1y

"And I heard someone say something that stuck with me a lot
'Bout how we need protection from those protectin' the block
Nobody lookin' out for nobody
Maybe we should try and help somebody or be somebody
Instead of bein' somebody that makes the news, so everybody can Tweet about it
And then they start to "R.I.P." about it
And four weeks later nobody even speaks about it
Damn, I just had to say my piece about it
Oh, you gotta love it—
But they scared of the truth so back to me showin' out in public, that's a hotter subject"

The Darkest Angel

1y

Because you either missed it or not really listening. He has done this