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  • Htownwolf

    Not a liberal at all but ok lol

    One of us! One of us!

  • Feb 23, 2020
    Htownwolf

    Not a liberal at all but ok lol

    you can call yourself what you want homie, but you're certainly not an anti-imperialist if you think we need to prioritize americans over others

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    KimJongUn

    support for imperialism is objectively a form of racism

    That's fair, what good are decent domestic policies if US imperialism is still infecting the global south.

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    Shabazz999

    That's fair, what good are decent domestic policies if US imperialism is still infecting the global south.

    you wont even get those decent policies anyway if the capitalists spend your taxes on holding an empire together

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    Benito Mussolini

    “She’s perfectly happy to drone strike Muslim weddings or civilians who happen to be the wrong religion (Unless she’s said otherwise)”

    Lol what a spin.

    As far as I’ve seen she hasn’t had an extremely favourable opinion on Islam throughout her political history, I may of exaggerated a little bit as I stated in that post it’s mainly because of her connections to Hindu fascists, She also danced around the edges of the whole ‘Muslim suspicion’ thing and republican talking points with Obama, not to forget she shat on him for not calling terrorists 'islamic'.

    And again she’s quite hawkish on “terrorism” and has said before in the clip that posted that she is a hawk on terrorism, these are quite conservative takes on foreign policy from how I see it

    If you wanna argue against any of this instead of being condescending you are welcome to

  • Feb 23, 2020
    ultrasuperslimey

    Jayapal is born in India so I don't think she counts? Don't quote me, might be wrong.

    You right. Barbara Lee my #1 then.

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    the foreign policy stuff is one the main reasons i wish there was a viable leftist party in the US. Even if they didn't manage to win a presidency, it'd be nice to have a party who could at the least remind a politician as popular as bernie that he was once a principled socialist who called for abolishing the CIA and was stated he was against private enterprise on a national level

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    the foreign policy stuff is one the main reasons i wish there was a viable leftist party in the US. Even if they didn't manage to win a presidency, it'd be nice to have a party who could at the least remind a politician as popular as bernie that he was once a principled socialist who called for abolishing the CIA and was stated he was against private enterprise on a national level

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    super tues boutta be a trip. bernie winning big tho. americans aren’t informed but they don’t like being told what to do. they see through the facade of the mainstream media

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    KimJongUn

    you wont even get those decent policies anyway if the capitalists spend your taxes on holding an empire together

    I'm coming out from lurking to say that taxes don't finance govt spending, that's a myth promoted in order to boost deregulatory policies.

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    the foreign policy stuff is one the main reasons i wish there was a viable leftist party in the US. Even if they didn't manage to win a presidency, it'd be nice to have a party who could at the least remind a politician as popular as bernie that he was once a principled socialist who called for abolishing the CIA and was stated he was against private enterprise on a national level

    but again, what does it mean to be "viable"? imperialism is a structural condition of capitalism and will inevitably exert its influence upon any deviation to the system. there's a place for legitimate socialists in the electoral system but becoming "viable" isn't it, at best they can expose the inherent flaws in the whole premise and reach the advanced sectors of the working class. but that's really it, eurocommunism was a massive failure and even these failures can't be replicated in the US, which has a different structural role in the global capitalist system than our european allies did in the mid 20th century.

    people to think about why SYRIZA was able to win and why Corbyn and the Labour Party lost, or why electoral progressivism in Mexico and South Korea is possible while in most of the third world it simply becomes fascism.

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    Stay Healthy

    I'm coming out from lurking to say that taxes don't finance govt spending, that's a myth promoted in order to boost deregulatory policies.

    What does then

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    loveu

    What does then

    The government doesn't need its own dollars to finance it's spending. Here's a quick breakdown, this is a lot of knowledge that was used in making the original new deal and is actually basic econ regardless of political push against it.

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    but again, what does it mean to be "viable"? imperialism is a structural condition of capitalism and will inevitably exert its influence upon any deviation to the system. there's a place for legitimate socialists in the electoral system but becoming "viable" isn't it, at best they can expose the inherent flaws in the whole premise and reach the advanced sectors of the working class. but that's really it, eurocommunism was a massive failure and even these failures can't be replicated in the US, which has a different structural role in the global capitalist system than our european allies did in the mid 20th century.

    people to think about why SYRIZA was able to win and why Corbyn and the Labour Party lost, or why electoral progressivism in Mexico and South Korea is possible while in most of the third world it simply becomes fascism.

    this is true but i mean thats why the only true end goal is to overthrow capitalism and replace it with communism ofc.

    i guess im more just speaking to the short term, where at the least if we had a president who wasn't an imperialist and was pushed to the left by a socialist party in that regard and a socialist party that was reaching the advanced sectors of the working class, at least maybe we could see millions of people potentially shown an alternative to what we have.

    but i do agree that in the end that anything that doesn't end with capitalism being destroyed is futile in the end.

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    this is true but i mean thats why the only true end goal is to overthrow capitalism and replace it with communism ofc.

    i guess im more just speaking to the short term, where at the least if we had a president who wasn't an imperialist and was pushed to the left by a socialist party in that regard and a socialist party that was reaching the advanced sectors of the working class, at least maybe we could see millions of people potentially shown an alternative to what we have.

    but i do agree that in the end that anything that doesn't end with capitalism being destroyed is futile in the end.

    people see historical figures like Olof Palme and think that Bernie or a similar "socialist" could potentially fill the same roll. but the USA isn't Sweden, both countries despite their similarities as imperialist nations had very different roles in global supply chains and their general proximity to existing socialism both spatially and temporally.

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    Stay Healthy

    The government doesn't need its own dollars to finance it's spending. Here's a quick breakdown, this is a lot of knowledge that was used in making the original new deal and is actually basic econ regardless of political push against it.

    !https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TDL4c8fMODk&t=258s

    Thank you this was really interesting. Appreciate it!

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    loveu

    Thank you this was really interesting. Appreciate it!

    Ofc, btw you might want to know that bernie's econ advisor is behind this video

  • Feb 23, 2020
    Stay Healthy

    Ofc, btw you might want to know that bernie's econ advisor is behind this video

    Wow

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    saw bernie's victory speech tonight from 20 feet away
    idk how it came off on TV but the energy in the room was unreal
    there's no way this dude loses texas
    i fervently believe he wins the whole thing now (as opposed to mostly believing it)
    none of the other candidates got clout like this

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    did he really get 45+%?

  • DEL_245

    As far as I’ve seen she hasn’t had an extremely favourable opinion on Islam throughout her political history, I may of exaggerated a little bit as I stated in that post it’s mainly because of her connections to Hindu fascists, She also danced around the edges of the whole ‘Muslim suspicion’ thing and republican talking points with Obama, not to forget she shat on him for not calling terrorists 'islamic'.

    And again she’s quite hawkish on “terrorism” and has said before in the clip that posted that she is a hawk on terrorism, these are quite conservative takes on foreign policy from how I see it

    If you wanna argue against any of this instead of being condescending you are welcome to

    It was your exaggeration of her stances. You think she’d drone strike gays and Muslims because she doesn’t like them? Lol

    Imagine me saying Bernie wants to get rid of capitalism in all seriousness. That’s how I view comments like that.

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    DEL_245

    I've already made a post itt on her but mostly because of her ties to Modi/ right wing hindu nationalism. Her "amazing" foreign policy isn't all that. Also she's just in general way too wishy-washy for me, comes off as quite the grifter

    I'd prefer her to like, Stacy Abrams and Warren, but I'd much prefer Nina or Rashida as a VP pick

    Was w you until you said tulsi was better than warren

    This is yr brain on bernie broism

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    loveu

    But who is gonna be VP if not nina turner

    Barbara lee
    Stacy abrams
    Liz warren

    These are actual names tht hv been floated in the bernie camp

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    Olivear

    Barbara lee
    Stacy abrams
    Liz warren

    These are actual names tht hv been floated in the bernie camp

    wow terrible picks homie

    abrams is literally a bloomberg supporter who took bloomberg's billionaire money to fund her own campaign lol

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    wow terrible picks homie

    abrams is literally a bloomberg supporter who took bloomberg's billionaire money to fund her own campaign lol

    There’s a good nyt article about this
    These are the only reasonable options

    There just arent tht many young female diverse progressive politicians w a ntl platform

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