As long as I get my 20k back

Cmon man it was gold.

tulsi makes sense idk why i didnt think of this

tulsi's middle finger to the dnc >>>>>

I don't like personal anecdotes but

I completed two years at a local state college. At the time I didn't have to worry about food, rent, etc., or anything extra. I applied for financial aid, and could pay for school simply through the pell grant and have maybe 2-3 hundred left over per semester on refund checks. So at this state college I accrued no debt and I imagine its a similar story for a lot of students.

After two years, get my associates. I transfer to a university, where I'm at now. Tuition is higher, I have to worry about rent, food etc., My pell grant now covers just the cost of my tuition. So I have nothing left over for rent. So naturally, I have to start taking out loans as I finish up my degree.

This is the reality for a lot of students.

And I'm not an expert on debt. I don't know all of the reasons people go into debt, but I do know student debt and medical debt are not indicators of a humane society. There is no reason K-16 shouldn't be "free" and there's no reason we should have people paying back loans (money they could spend elsewhere on better, more stimulating things) when we can change the way we tax wall street to make up for it. And yes, this all stems from the fact that higher education should be free and that we should apply that fact retroactively as much as possible

That would be lit but Bernie and especially Tulsi truly repulse the neolib base and mainstream media... idk if they could get turnout sufficient to win even with independents switching and the F***TRUMP machine in full swing

Sorry to tel you but his chances of winning aren't tied to picking warren as his VP

I don’t know what to think of free college.

So many collegesspend tuition irresponsibly and are unfairly subsidized by gov. I don’t want taxpayer money having to cave for new bs fancy stadiums and the like. And the difference between public and private universities? What’s the play there?

There’s a lot of good to come from it but also a nightmare to implement. Free tuition would make kids go off during application season. Would this also lower the value of degrees? Would the value be further restricted to top universities.

I think the focus should be on standardizing tuition and loan forgiveness than eliminating it. Talking out my ass tho

selfishness isn't good for you

You also have to wonder if employers think less of most degrees with free college since they are so easily attainable? I don’t know the answer to that, just late night thoughts

I’m not the only one who thinks that way. It’s not selfishness, it’s reality

bruv if you don’t want the state to subsidize my $200000 gender studies degree you’re basically pinochet

No, its selfishness.

if you think future generations should incur a cost just because you did, thats selfish

I’m in the same generation, I paid them off this year(2019)

and you shouldn't of had to do that, but just because you did doesn't mean others should

Back to you

does bernie's plan propose to cover additional living expenses as well? I know in most european (maybe not most but you get what I'm saying) countries where they offer free tuition it doesn't cover those things.

Agreed def on my mind. I’m wondering if this would make schools even more selective and if number of enrolled at lesser tier schools would drop off hard.

It’s ridiculous that many students are shelling out $40-50k for a generic education but free education for all? Idk. But I’m glad that it’s at least a big talking point because it’s a sham. Ex advisor I knew said that many masters programs at my college were farms for high paying foreign students and admins forced admissions to focus on them.

yeah thats included in his plan iirc

ill look for the specific language

His chances of winning the general election are 100% tied to who he picks as a running mate. It doesn't have to be Warren but I think that if he picks someone as far left as him as you suggested he would he'll have a very hard time.

Bernie isn't going to compromise just to appeal to some centrist dems. I'll go ahead and say anyone who isn't committed to fighting for the working class people isn't going to have a spot in his administration let alone as VP

I have sympathy for the situation you're in and agree people shouldn't have to deal with situations like that. I worked full time and rushed to graduate early in college to avoid debt. You shouldn't have to do that. However, it bothers me seeing people rack up as much as 6 figures in student debt all because of their own financial negligence and I don't think it's selfish to think there should be consequences for those poor decisions. Hell, I think it's selfish to not be accountable for your own mistakes and think other people should take care of it.

Provide Pell Grants to low-income students to cover the non-tuition and fee costs of school, including: housing, books, supplies, transportation, and other costs of living.

Require participating states and tribes to cover the full cost of obtaining a degree for low-income students (normally those with a family income of less than $25,000) by covering any gap that may still exist after we eliminate tuition, fees, and grants.
Place a cap on student loan interest rates going forward. The federal government shouldn’t make billions of dollars in profit off of student loans while students are drowning in debt. We should invest in young Americans – not leverage their futures. Today, the average interest rate on undergraduate student loans is more than 5 percent. Under this proposal, we will cap student loan interest rates at 1.88 percent.

In addition to eliminating tuition and fees, we will match any additional spending from states and tribes which reduces the cost of attending school at a dollar for dollar rate. This funding goes beyond closing the cost gap – participating states and tribes could use this money to hire additional faculty, ensure professors get professional development opportunities, and increase students’ access to educational opportunities.

Triple funding for the Work-Study Program. By tripling funding for this program, we can build valuable career experiences for students that will help them after they graduate.Today, this program provides about $1,760 per year to some 700,000 students. When we are in the White House, we will expand the program to reach at least 2.1 million students – a 1.4 million student increase. And we will ensure that funding targets schools that have large low-income student enrollment.
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