there was only ever one choice
looks like joe exotic without the meth
but is actually joe exotic with a lot more meth
it ends in -ie
Yeah, but Bernie sounds like a crime boss or like some old timey ball player.
Howie sounds like some kid who eats paste.
the bar is on the floor and they still came up short
it’s happening
What’s happening? Trump is offering a bullshit push back on student debt while Biden is talking about debt forgiveness for people making under $125k
good lord
https://twitter.com/ryanstruyk/status/1248272852085850112
But I thought people liked Joe unlike Hillary, what happened?
"hErE's HoW bErNiE cAn sTilL wIn"
https://twitter.com/susysucks/status/1248043551855759365Lmao we really doing this again?
Very technically, if everyone votes for him, he could still win
Realistically, any chance he had ended on March 10
60? 💀. I think Hillary proposed lowering it to 55 in 2016.
And if he's going to take the means tested route for debt cancelation he could just copy Warren’s plan.
You think old people who make up the dems constituency saw or cared about this tweet? Lmao
This was just a tweet to hype up his base. Acting as if this messaging hurt him is hillarious, when thats what hes famous for.
I mean, it wasn't just that tweet. That was his whole message around that time. He needed to find a way to draw others in, rather than pushing them out.
I mean, it wasn't just that tweet. That was his whole message around that time. He needed to find a way to draw others in, rather than pushing them out.
His message was always the same. No matter what the media wouldnt give him not an inkling of positive coverage and thats what swayed the minds of old people. Everyone dropped out and endorsed Biden simultaneously and the media put its hail mary in that
His message was always the same. No matter what the media wouldnt give him not an inkling of positive coverage and thats what swayed the minds of old people. Everyone dropped out and endorsed Biden simultaneously and the media put its hail mary in that
You're talking about post-South Carolina when s*** was way past burnt up already.
Bernie had a shot. Progressives are going to continue to be losers (just like the DNC) unless you have the balls to call out your own faults. Stop blaming other people. It wasn't a slam dunk by any means, but Bernie definitely still had the upper hand post Nevada.
Yes the media was one of the big challenges he faced, but he fumbled the bag, plain and simple.
If politics were sports I would have disassociated myself from the sorry ass DNC and progressives and joined the GOP long ago. Being part of a group that has it in it's DNA to be whiney losers is f***ing annoying.
You're talking about post-South Carolina when s*** was way past burnt up already.
Bernie had a shot. Progressives are going to continue to be losers (just like the DNC) unless you have the balls to call out your own faults. Stop blaming other people. It wasn't a slam dunk by any means, but Bernie definitely still had the upper hand post Nevada.
Yes the media was one of the big challenges he faced, but he fumbled the bag, plain and simple.
Yeah he didnt attack Biden. Was the only thing he had left to do
You cant dismiss the power of old stupid voters and general public ignorance though.
I dont have any hope for this country
Yeah he didnt attack Biden. Was the only thing he had left to do
You cant dismiss the power of old stupid voters and general public ignorance though.
I dont have any hope for this country
Let's take his campaign in a vacuum aside from his political views for a second - in my opinion Bernie is just bad at branding. Some people attribute his poor performance in these metrics to malice (namely right wing boomers), but I think it's just plain incompetence. It's like he forgot the country he's running in is still the US. As a politician, you have to slightly bend your message to the general population of the country you're running in.
I don't know if it's just his advisors blowing it or what. Even besides his lack of aggression toward Biden, Bernie just didn't tailor his message to most actual voters, let alone the demographic he needed to actually win. His team clearly thought he was, but it clearly wasn't nearly as good as they thought. I couldn't tell who he was trying to appeal to half the time.
Like I get it, he's trying to be consistent in his messaging, but that messaging clearly wasn't working. What he says gets a lot of likes on twitter, and it's like his advisors thought they could equate that to real life just because of how popular Trump's twitter is (and thus his relative popularity with that demographic interacting with it) without recognizing the caveats between the two.
If they didn't think that, they clearly would have tried to changing their strategy. Bernie ran an amazing social media campaign and a lackluster political campaign. People who believe in his message need to learn from his mistakes if they want any chance of being elected en-masse in the future.
If politics were sports I would have disassociated myself from the sorry ass DNC and progressives and joined the GOP long ago. Being part of a group that has it in it's DNA to be whiney losers is f***ing annoying.
I just realized that the GOP has only won 1 presidential general election by popular vote in the last 30 years. I mean the DNC is lame but I don’t see how republicans are better winners than them
What’s happening? Trump is offering a bullshit push back on student debt while Biden is talking about debt forgiveness for people making under $125k
yeah and the closer trump encroaches on territory that should be strictly reserved for democrat catering, the more muddy the water gets come this general (corona aside obv, as that is the big wild card)
Let's take his campaign in a vacuum aside from his political views for a second - in my opinion Bernie is just bad at branding. Some people attribute his poor performance in these metrics to malice (namely right wing boomers), but I think it's just plain incompetence. It's like he forgot the country he's running in is still the US. As a politician, you have to slightly bend your message to the general population of the country you're running in.
I don't know if it's just his advisors blowing it or what. Even besides his lack of aggression toward Biden, Bernie just didn't tailor his message to most actual voters, let alone the demographic he needed to actually win. His team clearly thought he was, but it clearly wasn't nearly as good as they thought. I couldn't tell who he was trying to appeal to half the time.
Like I get it, he's trying to be consistent in his messaging, but that messaging clearly wasn't working. What he says gets a lot of likes on twitter, and it's like his advisors thought they could equate that to real life just because of how popular Trump's twitter is (and thus his relative popularity with that demographic interacting with it) without recognizing the caveats between the two.
If they didn't think that, they clearly would have tried to changing their strategy. Bernie ran an amazing social media campaign and a lackluster political campaign. People who believe in his message need to learn from his mistakes if they want any chance of being elected en-masse in the future.
Bernie talked about expanding medicare, protecting social security, getting money out of politics, climate change, and on and on and on. These issues apply to voters of EVERY demo.
He was THE issues candidate. Only thing is, the over 45 crowd doesn't care about issues except "beating Trump", so they just want to be told which oppressor to vote for. Bernie was a 3 state winning frontunner until the DNC hail mary actually worked.
He did everything he could but attack Biden. Maybe that wouldve woken the default voters up if he just said "Joe is Hillary 2.0. I am FDR."
The only other knock I'll give him is he shouldve called himself an FDR dem since 2016, not dem socialist. Just change the semantics and these dumb old f***s will then understand
Let's take his campaign in a vacuum aside from his political views for a second - in my opinion Bernie is just bad at branding. Some people attribute his poor performance in these metrics to malice (namely right wing boomers), but I think it's just plain incompetence. It's like he forgot the country he's running in is still the US. As a politician, you have to slightly bend your message to the general population of the country you're running in.
I don't know if it's just his advisors blowing it or what. Even besides his lack of aggression toward Biden, Bernie just didn't tailor his message to most actual voters, let alone the demographic he needed to actually win. His team clearly thought he was, but it clearly wasn't nearly as good as they thought. I couldn't tell who he was trying to appeal to half the time.
Like I get it, he's trying to be consistent in his messaging, but that messaging clearly wasn't working. What he says gets a lot of likes on twitter, and it's like his advisors thought they could equate that to real life just because of how popular Trump's twitter is (and thus his relative popularity with that demographic interacting with it) without recognizing the caveats between the two.
If they didn't think that, they clearly would have tried to changing their strategy. Bernie ran an amazing social media campaign and a lackluster political campaign. People who believe in his message need to learn from his mistakes if they want any chance of being elected en-masse in the future.
not even really touching on any specific points in your post but at the end of the day he still ran a good political campaign with an impressive ground game. it was always going to just have to be much more in regards to what he was up against and the mountain he had to climb, so i think it’s easy to say bc he got beat by the likes of a joe biden or what have you, that his campaign was somehow worse than his. i disagree and think it’s disingenuous to all the other optics (even tho u said consider it in a vacuum, ofc)