It will be 75 years since both bombings (Thursday for Hiroshima & Sunday for Nagasaki).

How do y'all feel about these horrible events 75 years later? Is our current civilization better off for it? Have we not learned any lessons?

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Opened Pandora’s box for nuclear warfare and stockpiling. It was bound to happen but the most surprising part is that it has not happened again since

they were horrible events

I have been to Hiroshima before and have visited ground zero of the explosion (a hospital) as well as the museum dedicated to the atomic bombings. It was part of a cultural exchange I was invited to by the Japanese Foreign Ministry for European university students. The tour guide downplayed the role of Imperial Japan's atrocities and bit his tongue over the topic of the US role in the Pacific War.

In my opinion: Anybody who defends these bombings is an absolutely horrible human being. So many civilians were killed in a moment where the USA basically had already won the war. It's mostly Americans defending this, anybody with half a brain recognizes that this stuff was horrific. The USA basically did it to show off to the Soviets that they have atomic capabilities. It was also to prevent the Soviet Union from invading Japan, which would have meant that Japan might not have been administrated by the USA but by the Soviets instead, which the USA did not want. So many civilians died just for some political strategizing. The Cold War started the moment that bomb hit.

The reason Japan ultimately gave up the war wasn't even because of the bomb, but because of the threat of Soviet invasion looming over them.

Going to the museum was weird, since Japanese are allied with the USA. While they don't openly say it, I think many Japanese hate the USA. The only reason they swallow their pride is because they hate China more and see the USA as an useful ally against their neighbor and historic nemesis

Should have never happened like most things that were bad that America tries to spin as necessary to justify it when teaching little kids.

No the world is not better off because of it wtf

I'm not surprised at all. Knowing the destruction it can cause, only those suicidal, such as terrorists, would actually use it because there will obviously be retaliation in kind.

I was more so alluding to the Cold War and other escalations in which it’s entirely plausible that an unstable government just hits the yolo button. Smh crazy world

sad it came to that but it was necessary. look into things like japan's response to the doolittle raid, nanjing, and more. they raped, killed, experimented on, and canibalized hundreds of thousands of innocent people (mostly chinese). they were basically just as bad as the nazi's.

this doesn't excuse the murder of innocent people living in japan

oh it's undeniably horrible, but if it stopped them from continuing what they were doing I think it was the right move.

the japanese military raped, tortured and murdered around 10 million innocent people during WWII and it doesn't get brought up nearly enough in discussion on the matter.

because it is irrelevant to whether or not the use of nucelar weapons, which killed mostly civilians, likely in the hundreds of thousands, was justified. The war was going to be over regardless of if the bombs were used, but as arcade posted earlier, the US used them to prevent the Soviets from being the ones who ended it.

it's revisionist history to say that japan was ready to surrender. it was going to continue.

i didn't say they were ready to surrender. Using the bombs wasn't necessary to end it, because other plans were in place to bring that about, that didn't involve slaughtering like 200k innocent people.

war crime and some of the worst atrocities committed in human history

Japanese rely on tradition in that case, the code of bushido can be Japanese officers can commit seppuku or pilots can do kamikaze either way. However, that event is literally “you win. we surrender.”

You know America GOAT when they drop 2 nukes and no one checks them

still no medicare

Fax, the world knew they deserved it too, otherwise we would of been tried for war crimes

it was definitely necessary to drop the bombs. I don't know if you guys knew how the Japanese fought during the war, but the Japanese weren't afraid of dying. They were willing to die for their country. If the bombs weren't dropped, it is arguable debated that more people would've died compared to the deaths of both the bombs. You got to remember, the war in Europe was over and it was just the war in the Pacific still happening. The remaining soldiers from the European Theater would've joined the Marines fighting in the Pacific to invade Japan. The Russians wouldve joined too (you guys know the atrocities they committed during the war, now imagine them in Japan). Civilians were going to be in the crossfire since it was going to be an invasion of their homeland. Japan wouldve put up a deadly fight if the bombs weren't dropped. But of course, their were consequences with the bombs. Nowadays many countries now possess nuclear weapons.

Yall are really pieces of s*** lmfao

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How did I know this thread would have 2/3 users at least claiming that the innocent Japanese citizens deserved to get bombed due to the atrocities committed by their government.

Similar to what Synop said, you guys are s***ty people and sick in the head.

The Russians did join the war at the very end which is ultimately why Japan surrendered. The Japanese leadership preferred to end up in American hands than Soviet because they knew the Americans would generally allow things to remain the same.

Nuking Japan was not necessary, in 1943, 1944 and earlier in 1945 Japan tried to offer a conditional surrender but the USA refused