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    slimjack

    so...from your point of view US should be nuked for what they did to black people, native american or vietnamese?

    Yes 100% if only minorities could be unaffected

  • Aug 5, 2020
    rvi

    yeah all those children totally deserved mass murder

    I was wylin at that hour i regret a bit of what I said

  • rvi

    tbh i think its a pretty common belief here. when i was in school they basically taught us that it was "necessary" to win the war. i remember in a history class we had a debate over if it was justified or not. they never really emphasized the real effects of it

    never underestimate how many idiots and horrible people we have here

    i thought propaganda only happened in commie countries

  • Aug 5, 2020

    More US war crimes which nobody was ever held accountable for.

  • Aug 5, 2020

    Eh it's history

    Who knows what would've happened if things didn't go as they did

  • Aug 5, 2020
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    China was grateful for it

    Regardless of how barbaric and horrible an act of violence is, might always wins. In times of war there is no law

  • rano 🇧🇷
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    Americans always defending this s*** and then calling other nationalities brainwashed, its crazy

  • Aug 5, 2020
    Jbreezyondeck

    Opened Pandora’s box for nuclear warfare and stockpiling. It was bound to happen but the most surprising part is that it has not happened again since

    Not really. Would probably lead to nuclear war and we'd all be f***ed. I think everyone is hesitant to use one after these atrocities as well.

  • Aug 5, 2020

    How did all those civilians deserve it

  • Aug 5, 2020
    rwina sawayama

    TIL some americans actually defend this lol

    and theyre on KTT

    It's the mainstream view tbh

  • Aug 5, 2020
    rano

    Americans always defending this s*** and then calling other nationalities brainwashed, its crazy

  • Aug 5, 2020

    People justifying this should watch this.

  • Aug 5, 2020
    Jozu

    China was grateful for it

    Regardless of how barbaric and horrible an act of violence is, might always wins. In times of war there is no law

    you imperialists are wild

  • Aug 5, 2020
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    Jozu

    China was grateful for it

    Regardless of how barbaric and horrible an act of violence is, might always wins. In times of war there is no law

    archive.defense.gov/pubs/law-of-war-manual-june-2015.pdf

    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Law_of_war

  • Aug 5, 2020
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    orangejuice

    How did I know this thread would have 2/3 users at least claiming that the innocent Japanese citizens deserved to get bombed due to the atrocities committed by their government.

    Similar to what Synop said, you guys are s***ty people and sick in the head.

    This is literally the mainstream view in society, sheesh this place is turning to a 2nd reddit. So many intellectuals on here with history degrees

  • Aug 5, 2020
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    rwina sawayama

    TIL some americans actually defend this lol

    and theyre on KTT

    As other users have said they teach us it was justified in school

  • Smoofer

    As other users have said they teach us it was justified in school

    yeah thats absolutely insane LMAO but all over here in the western world history lessons in school they skip over or justify the bad things the country did

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    As an adherent to World War 2 history, this thread is embarrassing to say at least. From USA won the war by itself is almost a myth and knowing the context of both Imperial Japan and United States. I know this subject is debatable and I’d rather stick what history goes and historians lecture from it than a misconstrued standpoint or “mainstream” view.

  • ARCADE GOON

    I have been to Hiroshima before and have visited ground zero of the explosion (a hospital) as well as the museum dedicated to the atomic bombings. It was part of a cultural exchange I was invited to by the Japanese Foreign Ministry for European university students. The tour guide downplayed the role of Imperial Japan's atrocities and bit his tongue over the topic of the US role in the Pacific War.

    In my opinion: Anybody who defends these bombings is an absolutely horrible human being. So many civilians were killed in a moment where the USA basically had already won the war. It's mostly Americans defending this, anybody with half a brain recognizes that this stuff was horrific. The USA basically did it to show off to the Soviets that they have atomic capabilities. It was also to prevent the Soviet Union from invading Japan, which would have meant that Japan might not have been administrated by the USA but by the Soviets instead, which the USA did not want. So many civilians died just for some political strategizing. The Cold War started the moment that bomb hit.

    The reason Japan ultimately gave up the war wasn't even because of the bomb, but because of the threat of Soviet invasion looming over them.

    Going to the museum was weird, since Japanese are allied with the USA. While they don't openly say it, I think many Japanese hate the USA. The only reason they swallow their pride is because they hate China more and see the USA as an useful ally against their neighbor and historic nemesis

    The US and war crimes is nothing new

  • orangejuice

    How did I know this thread would have 2/3 users at least claiming that the innocent Japanese citizens deserved to get bombed due to the atrocities committed by their government.

    Similar to what Synop said, you guys are s***ty people and sick in the head.

  • Aug 5, 2020
    ARCADE GOON

    I have been to Hiroshima before and have visited ground zero of the explosion (a hospital) as well as the museum dedicated to the atomic bombings. It was part of a cultural exchange I was invited to by the Japanese Foreign Ministry for European university students. The tour guide downplayed the role of Imperial Japan's atrocities and bit his tongue over the topic of the US role in the Pacific War.

    In my opinion: Anybody who defends these bombings is an absolutely horrible human being. So many civilians were killed in a moment where the USA basically had already won the war. It's mostly Americans defending this, anybody with half a brain recognizes that this stuff was horrific. The USA basically did it to show off to the Soviets that they have atomic capabilities. It was also to prevent the Soviet Union from invading Japan, which would have meant that Japan might not have been administrated by the USA but by the Soviets instead, which the USA did not want. So many civilians died just for some political strategizing. The Cold War started the moment that bomb hit.

    The reason Japan ultimately gave up the war wasn't even because of the bomb, but because of the threat of Soviet invasion looming over them.

    Going to the museum was weird, since Japanese are allied with the USA. While they don't openly say it, I think many Japanese hate the USA. The only reason they swallow their pride is because they hate China more and see the USA as an useful ally against their neighbor and historic nemesis

    I’d always heard growing up that there was some sort of a***ysis apparently done determining that allowing conventional warfare to continue for as long as it took for someone to surrender would have led to more deaths than the two bombs - is this complete bs???

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    Aug 5, 2020
    rano

    Americans always defending this s*** and then calling other nationalities brainwashed, its crazy

    americans are one of the worst people if not the worst

    in the whole world

    been known

    if you find fault in everyone - then maybe it's u that's the problem

  • Aug 5, 2020

    小日本鬼子

  • Aug 5, 2020
    You Disappoint Me

    This is literally the mainstream view in society, sheesh this place is turning to a 2nd reddit. So many intellectuals on here with history degrees

    As I said in my post:

    You guys are s***ty people, and sick in the head.

    Just because American school teaches you that in American society it's justified does not mean that it was actually okay. I'm sure the civilians that got bombed in the middle east deserved it too haha!

    Like come on dude lmao.

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    shane

    https://archive.defense.gov/pubs/law-of-war-manual-june-2015.pdf

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Law_of_war

    It’s is a reference to their being no law. Look at Syria for the most recent example. No man is confined to a set of arbitrary laws, because they’re inherently susceptible to evil tendencies.