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  • Jun 5, 2020

    I guess it depends on what you mean by police,
    Do we abolish normal officers
    Or the whole thing, like detectives, fbi all that

  • Jun 5, 2020
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    We would still need somebody contact in case of a violent crime imo.

    the issue isn't purely that the police are an armed force, it's that they're an armed force in place to defend the state and its interests ($$$), an armed force, i.e. militias with the goal of serving their community and not capital can and will need to exist if abolition was ever successful.

  • Jun 5, 2020
    Synopsis

    you could just like, give everyone food.

    Which is why it's dumb to even think about abolishing police before you rid whatever society your are in of poverty.

  • Jun 5, 2020

    Replace them with these

  • Too Dark

    I agree, this is an interesting concept but how would you implement it to huge cities?

    You have to write a proposal to the city. Depends entirely on which city and how their budget looks, what types of programs should be established. Bigger cities tend to have bigger budgets proportionately, just scale it back. As seen in recent days, the police have access to massive amounts of tear gas, weapons, riot gear, armed trucks. Ridiculous stuff that is not necessary. Stuff we’re only seeing now because police are a problem. They usually just sit and collect dust. Stuff like that should be held at 1 or 2 locations in the county seeing as they’re extremely situational. Costs can easily be cut back

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    The fact that there is even interest in getting rid of the police is a major step forward though.

  • Jun 5, 2020

    It’s a very comply problem on par with many other global problems like poverty
    But I deffo think it can be done but it will require many people and lots of effort, which is why it will probably never be solved

  • Jun 5, 2020
    candace

    Community-led protection groups

    but that could get messy real quick. there's criminals who go to different states committing crimes. there should still be a group to do what the police are SUPPOSED to do and still care for us ALL and know different cultures, but the current one is broken and has been for forever. IDK how every single community would get protection groups too. Do you mean community as in each neighborhood or subdivision? city? there's so much involved in this us common people might not be the right ones to figure it all out.

  • Clb sexman

    abolishing them is stupid. but they need to be rebuilt from the ground up, reform is not enough at this point

    Very few people are for abolishing in the sense that we never have any form of law enforcement again, but rather just not policemen as we know them. Most people would agree with you

  • Jun 5, 2020
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    Mental health and trauma experts and things of that nature

    The mental health unit gonna come in real handy when I'm being robbed at gunpoint

  • Jun 5, 2020

    Aren’t there people with so called ‘degrees’ in social sciences for stuff like this?

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    TIIMMY BURNER

    The mental health unit gonna come in real handy when I'm being robbed at gunpoint

    if youre being robbed at gunpoint you prolly aren't gonna be able to call the police

  • Jun 5, 2020
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    if youre being robbed at gunpoint you prolly aren't gonna be able to call the police

    I would call them afterwards, or someone witnessing it would call them ideally.

  • Jun 5, 2020
    TIIMMY BURNER

    The mental health unit gonna come in real handy when I'm being robbed at gunpoint

    They gon use reverse psychology to unarm the robber

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    TIIMMY BURNER

    The mental health unit gonna come in real handy when I'm being robbed at gunpoint

  • Jun 5, 2020
    TIIMMY BURNER

    I would call them afterwards, or someone witnessing it would call them ideally.

    they wont even be there before the robber is long gone

    so how did the police prevent you from being robbed in this scenario

  • Jun 5, 2020
    nosejabs

    this happens already.

    my sister was once being threatened by her ex bf, over text. calls the cops, they show up, say they can't do anything but to call them back if he shows up

    wow very much a great job by our brave policemen.

  • Jun 5, 2020
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    TIIMMY BURNER

    The mental health unit gonna come in real handy when I'm being robbed at gunpoint

    There should still be some form of law enforcement but robbery’s should drop a lot if police funding was reallocated to community resources

  • Jun 5, 2020
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    Even if we did nothing in those cases the situation would not be worse than it is now, where rapists already are barely convicted.

    Some of it has to do with people being afraid of going to the police cuz they are illegal, have a warrant, etc. it’s abhorrent that we have come to the point of being afraid of the people who are supposed to protect us.

  • Jun 5, 2020
    The Man

    Some of it has to do with people being afraid of going to the police cuz they are illegal, have a warrant, etc. it’s abhorrent that we have come to the point of being afraid of the people who are supposed to protect us.

    yes this is also true

  • Jun 5, 2020
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    Ik it sounds too hypothetical but you think ai could be better/worse than cops right now?

  • Jun 5, 2020
    nosejabs

    We would still need somebody contact in case of a violent crime imo.

    the issue isn't purely that the police are an armed force, it's that they're an armed force in place to defend the state and its interests ($$$), an armed force, i.e. militias with the goal of serving their community and not capital can and will need to exist if abolition was ever successful.

    Yep

  • Jun 5, 2020
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    Too Dark

    Ik it sounds too hypothetical but you think ai could be better/worse than cops right now?

    Worse.

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    Privatized police force with 2 years training, graduate and join companies that pitch to cities

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    The Man

    Worse.

    Would be unbiased