Man I have a terrible habit of overthinking/overanalyzing social interactions, even the smallest slip-up remains in my thoughts lol. You have a great point about listening more than talking especially with the higher-ups though, need to practice it more.

Your NYC office sounds like the perfect environment, being around extroverts or people who engage in office banter is more exhausting than the work itself, at least for me.

Oh no man NYC office is filled with the extroverts/drinkers/frats still

Thing is the offices there are so big many teams have different subcultures

You’ll have teams filled with quiet internationals, others with basic frat/sorority kids, and others with super type a people

Getting a good team that fits well with your personality is luck but you have a resource manager to ask for switches

People at big 4 are pretty basic — all they talked about were sports, love island, and whatever restaurants or bar is popular

Heard the auditing field in general attracts douchier people, compared to Tax. With that said I can view it as an opportunity to further develop my social skills, not only interacting with coworkers but clients too.

My brother pointed out how my speech always gives the impression that I’m stupid or incompetent, despite the work I produce showing otherwise. Already getting nervous at the thought of departing from my current role and having to apply for jobs again, since I can’t help but feel employers always judging me.

Still appreciate your advice though

checking in lads

bec is being completely removed though and replaced with more specialized versions of the other 3. So just a warning

You’re 32 years old.

When brother 0 free?

What's your endgame I think I want to eventually get into CorpDev and stick it out there, just need a good path from IA.

Thinking the plan will be IA --> FP&A --> (Maybe Treasury here) --> CorpDev, all internal transfers.

Yep, that's why it's not necessarily last in my order, just in case I do fail a part earlier on. I still have the year to take all of it.

And, push comes to shove, I would much rather deal with the new BEC than whatever they hell they might cook up with revised FAR

i'm a CPA in Canada and have been working for a long time (relative I guess to the age of people on this site) and I wanted to share some insights I have:

• the CPA does make a difference. It increases you earnings, job prospects and upward potential in a company. When you compare it to the cost of getting an MBA I think it's pretty cost effective (assuming you went to a university with the pre-req courses)

• Accounting is boring as f*** in a lot of cases. You are going to be doing repetitive work for boomer companies a lot of the time.

• Tax is more interesting but way harder. You also get boxed into a specific type of role. You also make a lot more than auditers/corporate accountants bc the pool of talent is very low

• Industry is probably the right option for most people. 9 to 5 with occasional overtime at month /quarter/year ends. You can work at a cooler company but again but you won't really be attached to the client side of things.

• Most people who have a good personality end up working in FP&A (financial planning & a***ysis). Eventually this can take you to a more sales/operations/strategy role

• Big 4 is terrible. You work like a dog, make no money and it is a very bad work environment. You will meet cool people and learn a lot about yourself but it's not good. Anyone who flexs about how many hours they work is a loser. Spend that time with your loved ones not tying A/R accounts.

• Benefits of B4 is that your promotions are scheduled providing you aren't terrible, you have exit options and you are a very well rounded accountant a lot of times. You learn the most at small firms because youre jack of all trades but B4 can be good to specailize

• The exit at b4 is often times glamourized and is really regional/client dependent. A lot of ppl I know in Toronto end up exiting doing corp accounting manager jobs for mining or other factory companies. Not exactly sexy but no shade work is work

• Finally the CPA at least here in my view has been devalued. You have a lot more applicants and the pathway is a lot more lenient to register as a CPA student, you don't even need an accounting degree. This has become a $$$ scheme so you take the CPA accounting modules and what not. Also at least here you can do your CPA all through industry and somehow being a designated individual and not knowing how to do a tax return to me is shocking. That might be a bit boomer of me tho.

Overall not for everyone and requires a lot of dedication and willingness to learn. You have to enjoy it, do not pursue accounting just to make money you will hate your life. Work hard, don't make careless mistakes and show initiative to learn. You will do great!

No idea, heard he not returning from someone, but hope not.

Free bonfire

If there's a freelance accountant here in Atlanta, I have a potential job for you, working with a real estate company here in the city. Let me know, please.

bec wont be a thing anymore. instead you will pick between one of the more specialized exams.

yea i hear pay in canada is so much worse 😭

Industry can pay more starting out sometimes but public accounting can pay way more long term. Or stay in public accounting but switch to advisory/consulting. Main benefit of industry is reasonable hours

i have an accounting degree that i’m NEVER gonna use hahaha

You’re an accountant fr?

not yet lol, still in school

why?

All those years procrastinating finally paid off

Still ain't been in the office since covid

I'm aware, I meant BEC as a catch-all

Can I hire one of you guys? I’ve always wanted to say let me call my accountant

Honestly not that solid onto anything

I wanted a product a***yst role at a alt data research firm but they pulled back hiring during the process cause of tech stocks crashing

I focus on consumer sector companies right now so either I go to sell side research within the same space and keep building industry expertise or I find another opportunity in fintech

I’d also consider consulting opportunities within the consumer space if those firms start hiring again

I thought about an MBA after 3-4 more years of working ideally on the sell side or in data product role still in finance. I’d want to shoot for a consumer sector consulting role at MBB post-MBA. From there I’d be like 30 and would either stick to consulting life or try to move into an executive role at a retail/food/apparel company.

Consulting is a great opportunity, you can’t go wrong with it depending on what type of advisory or strategy you’re specializing in. Have you considered going into IB if you decide to get an MBA? Could be a lucrative path into PE and VC but it’s a s***ton of hours