Makaveli

3y

Plz do it

God loves you

3y

Miles come soon

Makaveli

3y

Plz do it

God loves you

3y

Miles come soon

Makaveli

3y

“Sorry man, I’m going home”

God loves you

3y

Miles come soon

chip skylark

3y

What does that have to do with rap music

BRAVE

3y

You feel exactly what you would feel if you were in his situation, it’s one of the highest points of the movie for sure

SUPERMAN

3y

I couldn't care less about his spiderman

SUPERMAN

3y

Is that page ran by white dudes or Indians

SUPERMAN

3y

Yes. I shaking my head like the Prince of Egypt. Like they betrayed me

Niggamortis

3y

Could Miguel 2099 be a Prowler 2099 that killed the other Miguel in an attempt to live a life with the other daughter?

BRAVE

3y

Speaking of; I have a theory about movies like Prince of Egypt (one of my all time favorites) and animated movies like it in that “extremely well made animated flop that should’ve been a smash” genre: they’re movies that didn’t have to be animated and would’ve been smashes if they were live action

You may be interested since you do animation type work and visual art

BRAVE

3y

Been wondering about Miguel being a Prowler as well. Also, what if Beyond has a through line of “I was/Am a Prowler” between 42 Miles, Spider Punk (OG Prowler in the comics), and possibly Miguel

Niggamortis

3y

I didn’t want to overthink it, but I feel there’s some interesting (and maybe intentional) clues that entertain it that I noticed. I’ll drop them when I’m not on mobile.

Niggamortis

3y

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Alright, so pretty much, I have a slight suspicion that the Miguel we're introduced to (I'll call him Miguel 2) is actually a Prowler in his original universe. This is all fun speculation and I’m sure everything isn’t correct.

Initially, I thought it was odd that I never noticed him being introduced with a comic strip/sequence in consistency with every other major Spider-Man in the film outside of just his own comic in that visual pile. We later see at the HQ display the comic strip related to the death of Miguel 1, but never details leading into that end cover of his Spider-Man comic. It’s interrupted and given no detail. Possibly comedic of course, but still.

Moving on to his presented "backstory" from Spider-Society HQ scenes: I believe that Miguel 2 (a Prowler or non-Spider-Man) was brought into another world where Miguel 1 (2099) had the life he wanted. Miguel 2 kills Miguel 1, and makes an attempt to be 2099 moving forward. This occurred subsequent to the Alchemex test runs which introduced us into the many Spider-Men in the first film.

So why do things go wrong? Because Miguel 2 (a Prowler) killed the Spider-Man 2099 of that universe (Miguel 1), that Spider-Man could not prevent the in-universe Alchemex canon event from taking place, causing the destruction of that world. We'd now have to understand what the "canon" could mean, as I now see it as a time-space disruption that displaces everything except the anomaly (Miguel 2, now "2099") and destroys/undoes all else.

Other minor clues and details: physical demeanor and aggression between a Prowler and Miguel 2, body language, hanging arms/posture during attacks, identical claw marks on the train (present in BOTH films during interactions with Miles). There's a very on-the-nose quip by Miles, which he asks "You have claws? Are you even Spider-Man?" We never see Miguel even swing using his "webs", instead, he lunges and uses grapples to animalistically get around. In his first on-screen appearance against Vulture, he doesn't even have an active spider sense (could be for the comedic attack launched, but still).

Parallel with the ending of Across the Spider-Verse: Miguel 2 wanted to replace Miguel 1 because of his better life in the same way that Miles 42 might want to replace Miles.

I think Miguel 2 realized that Miles has the chance to actually change something and either wants it for himself or simply wants nobody else to have/do what he could not.

Schizo post over.

Twin Ivory

3y

Also the Spider-Man doesn’t wear a cape quip from the first movie and Miguels first appearance is with the cape

Niggamortis

3y

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Alright, so pretty much, I have a slight suspicion that the Miguel we're introduced to (I'll call him Miguel 2) is actually a Prowler in his original universe. This is all fun speculation and I’m sure everything isn’t correct.

Initially, I thought it was odd that I never noticed him being introduced with a comic strip/sequence in consistency with every other major Spider-Man in the film outside of just his own comic in that visual pile. We later see at the HQ display the comic strip related to the death of Miguel 1, but never details leading into that end cover of his Spider-Man comic. It’s interrupted and given no detail. Possibly comedic of course, but still.

Moving on to his presented "backstory" from Spider-Society HQ scenes: I believe that Miguel 2 (a Prowler or non-Spider-Man) was brought into another world where Miguel 1 (2099) had the life he wanted. Miguel 2 kills Miguel 1, and makes an attempt to be 2099 moving forward. This occurred subsequent to the Alchemex test runs which introduced us into the many Spider-Men in the first film.

So why do things go wrong? Because Miguel 2 (a Prowler) killed the Spider-Man 2099 of that universe (Miguel 1), that Spider-Man could not prevent the in-universe Alchemex canon event from taking place, causing the destruction of that world. We'd now have to understand what the "canon" could mean, as I now see it as a time-space disruption that displaces everything except the anomaly (Miguel 2, now "2099") and destroys/undoes all else.

Other minor clues and details: physical demeanor and aggression between a Prowler and Miguel 2, body language, hanging arms/posture during attacks, identical claw marks on the train (present in BOTH films during interactions with Miles). There's a very on-the-nose quip by Miles, which he asks "You have claws? Are you even Spider-Man?" We never see Miguel even swing using his "webs", instead, he lunges and uses grapples to animalistically get around. In his first on-screen appearance against Vulture, he doesn't even have an active spider sense (could be for the comedic attack launched, but still).

Parallel with the ending of Across the Spider-Verse: Miguel 2 wanted to replace Miguel 1 because of his better life in the same way that Miles 42 might want to replace Miles.

I think Miguel 2 realized that Miles has the chance to actually change something and either wants it for himself or simply wants nobody else to have/do what he could not.

Schizo post over.

DS2

3y

and she was with another nigga in the meantime yeah hes a fool if he goes back

Niggamortis

3y

· edited

Alright, so pretty much, I have a slight suspicion that the Miguel we're introduced to (I'll call him Miguel 2) is actually a Prowler in his original universe. This is all fun speculation and I’m sure everything isn’t correct.

Initially, I thought it was odd that I never noticed him being introduced with a comic strip/sequence in consistency with every other major Spider-Man in the film outside of just his own comic in that visual pile. We later see at the HQ display the comic strip related to the death of Miguel 1, but never details leading into that end cover of his Spider-Man comic. It’s interrupted and given no detail. Possibly comedic of course, but still.

Moving on to his presented "backstory" from Spider-Society HQ scenes: I believe that Miguel 2 (a Prowler or non-Spider-Man) was brought into another world where Miguel 1 (2099) had the life he wanted. Miguel 2 kills Miguel 1, and makes an attempt to be 2099 moving forward. This occurred subsequent to the Alchemex test runs which introduced us into the many Spider-Men in the first film.

So why do things go wrong? Because Miguel 2 (a Prowler) killed the Spider-Man 2099 of that universe (Miguel 1), that Spider-Man could not prevent the in-universe Alchemex canon event from taking place, causing the destruction of that world. We'd now have to understand what the "canon" could mean, as I now see it as a time-space disruption that displaces everything except the anomaly (Miguel 2, now "2099") and destroys/undoes all else.

Other minor clues and details: physical demeanor and aggression between a Prowler and Miguel 2, body language, hanging arms/posture during attacks, identical claw marks on the train (present in BOTH films during interactions with Miles). There's a very on-the-nose quip by Miles, which he asks "You have claws? Are you even Spider-Man?" We never see Miguel even swing using his "webs", instead, he lunges and uses grapples to animalistically get around. In his first on-screen appearance against Vulture, he doesn't even have an active spider sense (could be for the comedic attack launched, but still).

Parallel with the ending of Across the Spider-Verse: Miguel 2 wanted to replace Miguel 1 because of his better life in the same way that Miles 42 might want to replace Miles.

I think Miguel 2 realized that Miles has the chance to actually change something and either wants it for himself or simply wants nobody else to have/do what he could not.

Schizo post over.