ARCADE GOON

4y

There are South Asians, Polynesians, Aborigines far darker than some people who would be considered "black" in the USA. Does that mean they are the same group as black Americans?

What's the point in all this? What do you gain from saying this stuff?

Having dark skin by itself doesn't mean your relatively recent (~2000 years ago) ancestry was African.

americana

4y

labeling two continents worth of ethnicities a name that was specifically constructed out of an outdated science to dilute the equally diverse continent of Africa (done to justify slavery and colonialism) is pretty dis-intuitive @op

sure the two demographics were just about equal in their exploitation under the white, Christian ethnostate of the USA, but that’s as much of a comparison that we could make in this case. Many cases of cooperation between the two exist, but there is also a lot of times when they came in conflict or even cooperated with white people against each other. Native Americans even owned slaves!

Dionne

4y

This is true. The Us govt pitted tribes against eachother & killed a lot of copper colored americans. Part of it was due to greed (manifest destiny) other part due to the Inquisition which targeted Muslims, Jews, & non Christians all around the world

Starface

4y

Heres the rule guys: if u brown and got ancestry from Africa, you black

Everybody else, find a new word

americana

4y

far more complicated than that

ALPHABEAR

4y

Life started in-between Egypt/Palestine-Israel and central Iraq/Iran. Observe:

Now, from there, the closest regions to gain humans afterwards, were the rest of Africa, Arabia, the Indus Valley (India/Pakistan), and lower China.

Those areas are were 100% of ANCIENT civilizations are from.

Iraq/Iran = Sumerians (5000 B.C)
Arabia= Thamuds (3000 B.C)
Pakistan = Harappans (7000-3000 B.C)
India = Vedics (7000-3000 B.C)
China = Shang (5000-3000 B.C)

So technically, life did start in-between Africa & the Levantine (Palestine-Israel).

Also amazing how almost 99% of all prophets in Abrahamic religions are from this area.

Starface

4y

Lol its not

Thizz

4y

Going off this and what I remember from California history. Most Native American groups where scattered. It was one big empire, one of the reasons it was easy for the whites to conquer.

So assuming Africans did make it to the western land, basing it off Cubans/Dominicans/etc. they could have made it to Florida.
With Manifest pushing natives to the West I can see how Africans who became intertwined with native Americans.

Which is how we get darker skinned natives. But to say every native is black/dark skinned then that’s kinda too out there

americana

4y

the Inquisition was the Catholic Castillian’s refonquest and re-Christianization of the Iberian Peninsula. It didn’t affect any ideas in the US regarding religion and Native Americans

Much of what occurred in the US was the effect of American delusion that saw them claim themselves as the rightful owners of North America in a sick twisted consequence of years of British snobbiness

Dionne

4y

They made it all the way to South America & Mexico

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mexican_Inquisition

tomorrow volverse

4y

that's not really true tho. most black ppl in the U.S are here because of slavery and have the last name of a slave owner.

i don't know where you're getting this information

tomorrow volverse

4y

that's not really true tho. most black ppl in the U.S are here because of slavery and have the last name of a slave owner.

i don't know where you're getting this information

americana

4y

well yes but that entire course of events had less to do with enforcing control upon natives and more of the religious belief in itself. In contrast, Americans had absolutely no desire to assimilate native americans in their country which is a vastly different position to occupy

ARCADE GOON

4y

I dont think native americans would appreciate hearing african americans claim it is their ancestral land. Furthermore by claiming that black people are ancestral to the USA you are basically denying the genocide of the transatlantic slave trade happening. Why even engage in such alternative history?

flipflops_

4y

whats NEXT @OP, Asians were black too ? Ofcourse, African ? no, but the isolation from Polynesians/Austranesian made Pinoys kinda have dark skin (some of them)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Negrito

Also there were some theories about Native Africans reaching the new world pre-columdumb

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pre-Columbian_trans-oceanic_contact_theories

Also @OP we all came from Africa.

Dionne

4y

All the old books from the 1500s say the Indians (Indios) were “swarthy”, “dark complexion” “copper colored”, even “American”, according to Websters 1828 “American” meant copper colored races of America.

SHAQUILLE

4y

I am speaking for myself. Did you read my comment? I literally said “I” and “myself”

americana

4y

As a science and not a form of antropology, it really is, which is why race as an entire concept is useless (except for the reinforcement of power structures that are currently capitalist), and people need to completely rid themselves of it. Race changes nothing innate about any human outside of small health characteristics that are common based on geographical origin, only how society views them. I could have ancestry from Africa, what does that make me?

Race wasn’t even a societal thing until Europeans had to find a way to justify their conquest of the Old and New World.

Dionne

4y

Y’all gon learn today. I got receipts mane