No, you missed MY point and are ignorant on Anarchism like 99% of people including other leftists who simply don't get it. Yes, I'm telling you to read more. 'Anarchy Works' as a sole book debunks every single post you've made. I'm not gonna spend my time itt regurgitating texts because you lazy.

Authoritarian states failed and some* reverted back to capitalism. So what do you make of the authoritarian left because of this?

Your comments of aggression to an anarchist state Chomsky spoke on how that would work if this was attempted in the United States, because of how the U.S. is already setup.

Anyways, you are also ignoring ML sabotaged Anarchists, they didn't "fail" in Catalonia because of "relative disorder", they failed because they got turned on by Marxist-Leninists. Something that seems to be common in the "fails" of anarchist societies of late.

But "left unity" amirite.

Why do communists say “anarchism wouldnt work for a country” when theoretically it wouldn’t have to, because there wouldn’t be any countries and individual communities would just coordinate with each other

What are you just going to post videos and waste my time with no time stamps? I watched the video, 6:45 Noam Chomsky acknowledges the necessity of a centralized army to preserve a revolution and that would be the downfall of the revolution. Do you watch or read the stuff you suggest?

He says the best defense for the revolution would be the political appeal..

Me: Chomsky spoke on how this would work
You: Chomsky says how this would work, do you watch the stuff you suggest

Thank you.

Through a centralized army... lolll you don’t see the problem with that or are you just skimming?

It’s become clear that you’re just throwing content at me until I give up. I read the article and offered a rebuttal, in response, you offered a video that that actually raises the dilemma an anarchic revolution would have with focus being that a centralized army would be required and would ultimately lead to the end of the revolution. I point this out and you’ve got nothing but a cute response.

Anarchy will never be a valid system. God bless America!

Quite literally 2 different ways were posted itt, yet asking me the same question...

But I'm the one not reading.

left unity is a meme

Something I've noticed is that anarchists often seem to not be as opposed to capitalism as Marxists, class struggle is not central to them. And honestly I have no respect for these types of anarchists, they're just edgy liberals who want to posture as radicals.

But there are also anarchists who are anarchists because they believe that the state is not a vehicle with which workers control can be achieved, I disagree with them, but I can at least see where they're coming from and respect their concerns. But these types of anarchists often become Marxists eventually, or at least don't go on demented anti-communist rants like others.

All of their arguments boil down to "but people are too stupid to govern themselves". Well then why do these socialists think that communism is the good idea? All anarchism proposes is cutting through the BS.
Those the same type of people 300 years ago that said monarchy will always be a thing because people just need a leader who decides what's best for them or else chaos would ensue. People are too dependent to realize that they can actually do it themselves and that's the toxic thing about government. It finds excuses to justify why it has to be in our lives.

I think it's a useful thing strategically in certain situations, but there are moments when the ideological differences become too large to continue collaborating.

Same s***, different side of the spectrum basically.

Also the fact M-Ls MURKED Anarchists being ignored. If that is their end goal why has there been a historical repeat of the auth-left turning on Anarchists? What would they need to turn on us for and try to conquer if we have the same "end" goal?

Reminds me of all the negative EZLN criticism from auth-leftists.

Anarcho-rеtаrds in shambles for this one
Embrace the state as a higher more powerful expression of the personality

Let's not act like anarchists have been all nice and cordial towards MLs lol

bolshevik.info/meeting-lenin-kropotkin-bonc-brujevic1919.htm

This meeting between Lenin and Kropotkin is pretty hilarious to read

This is a little known fact, but the more private property an Ancap gains the higher their Midichlorian count. I desire to one day become Darth Megacorp, The Non Aggressive

Why not just send anarcho-terrorists into imperialist territory to assassinate political leaders and s***?

you need to stop viewing history through this weird lens of conspiracy theory where the actual masses of communists "betrayed" anarchists; anarchism simply couldnt reconcile its views with the modern world, scientific socialism, imperialism, the rising movement against colonialism in the global south, etc. in order to stay relevant with the global movement for socialism. it never managed to totalize itself and has since become theoretically incoherent. nobody "turned on you", most anarchists willingly supported communism and the ones who didn't had to deal with the backlash from workers who supported communism. it is what it is . i have no real issue with anarchists but eventually you need to be honest about history and even if communists were "betraying" you it would merely need to be another issue to organize around, instead it becomes an excuse to complain about not accomplishing anything.

If there were no laws people would go around raping each other n s***

Anarchism doesnt mean “no laws” the community would still democratically decide punishments for people that break the rules they set upon their communities

Anarchism was doing fine in Catalonia until auth-left communists shoved revolution to the back seat in favor of their own interests. I'm not about to gloss over history lmao.

Calling Anarchists liberals is not organization either. It's typical shallow auth-left criticisms hurled at Anarchists among other s***.

The point of this thread isn't auth-left vs libertarian-left. That can be its own separate thread; I didn't make these talking points in the Socialism thread to avoid that very thing. Neither threads need to turn into hostile battle grounds of opposing ideology in regards to the state, etc,.

I like you guys even though I have a different ideology because for the most part we want the same things and I'll agree there needs to focus on the similarities rather than the differences.

There are laws in an Anarchist society.

For anarchists, "crime" can best be described as anti-social acts, or behaviour which harms someone else or which invades their personal space. Anarchists, in other words, "believe that to act criminally means to violate the liberty of others" and so criminals in a free society would be "those who would encroach on personal integrity, liberty and the well being of others."

Anyone violating another persons autonomy is a criminal and dealt with.

Ironically about to watch the new episode of Power though

They're using arguments without giving concrete examples. Guerilla warfare, what you're suggesting, has literally been the only successful way anyone has managed to resist and fight military occupation.