ik it’s based on the Funky Drummer sample, but it’s got a more synesthesized feel to it

first two videos are samples, third vide is the same pattern on an 80's drum machine.

i'm not gonna post a pic of the pattern but just find the tempo for it and then program it in a sequencer with samples from like a 707, a linn drum or an alesis or smth

Third one is a sample of Ashley’s Roachclip by The Soup Searchers for sure

that primal album is gas

still can’t believe this came out in the 90s

i should mess around with different drum kits more. i just love the sound of the LM1 so much

could do that, it's really pick your poison as long as you're doing the processing correctly

yeah i’m gonna start experimenting more with the signal chain…shit is so endless, you can get lost in it and start overthinking

yes

the patterns arent that crazy so im assuming you mean the sound, feel and knock of the drums

you need a bitcrusher and/or sampler

for an example, this sampler and crusher is recreating 90s techno style feel on modern/dry drums - which drum machines have built in automatically that make them stand out from others and their own quirks:

same thing is still happening today but we actually have more control over it - its just that its all not in one place or package anymore

@op

a piece of advice a friend of mine gave me thats helped is to focus more on the engineering side of things. What we call the "Sound" of an album etc is just a convenient way to phrase the processing that it went through.

there are other things you can do too

such as using a delay-like plugin to add more life, "depth" and "realism" to your drums such as the plugins alterboy and echoboy

It feels so 90s to me, but if you like this - do you f*** with Tricky, Morcheeba, Sneaker Pimps type s***?

i should rephrase; it sounds ahead of its time in the context of its era (before trip hop dominated the rest of the 90s)

oh yeah; Maxinquaye is one of my favorite albums ever

All they did were take ran through Hip-Hop drum breaks that everyone used in the 80's and 90's and threw some drum machine hi-hats/tambourines/congas over them

dude, i don't think you're there yet to be giving advice like this. This is way out of scope of what we're talking about.

The convo is the use of Funky Drummer break/pattern and op was asking if they sampled on that third track or not.

Also these types of samplers are used for things like jungle not really techno (techno does have breaks sometimes just not processed like this)

the amiga sampler was much more present in UK Jungle/IDM genres like that. Techno is more about 909s and that kind of harder knockier drum sound.

also i don't really think a bit crusher would achieve the sound he's going for that example in the second track is just a recording slowed down. What you're hearing is not bit crushing but the room tone from the sample getting manipulated

can’t view the video cuz im at work rn but bless up for the advice fr. i will check it out soon

I love Rio the album by Duran Duran but I’ve never peeped their later works.

for adding depth etc, I really wouldn't use spatial effects unless absolutely necessary. Honestly for a break sometimes all it takes is some judicious mid/side processing, but adding a delay in the way you're describing (I imagine it's the send/return/pan trick), i don't really think will achieve what you or @op is looking for

this isn't great advice, i would pretty much ignore it

and i'm not gonna fight with anybody about engineering/production in this thread. I'm stating my case, and if you want to have a discussion I'll take part, but there was an AI thread earlier that I'm tired from and am not going to get into it.

I know i'm right, and if @op decides not to listen to me that is fine

they’re a singles band. their greatest hits album is amazing, but if i want a front to back experience i’d rather listen to the bands they ripped off like Japan and Roxy Music

i was giving a more general answer on how to edit dry drums - which most people feel their "drums are bad" because there is literally nothing done or used on it

jungle - techno its electronic and besides the point - i didnt mean that its the genre op is going after, again, i agev an example of a dry drum and sound being turned into something recognizable

a bit crusher "degrades" the sound of "too clean" sounds - there are extreme ways of doing it and subtle ways - i disagree and a lot of drum machines already have a lot of these componetes happening on top of the actual sound

i dont understand your nitpick, its not a direct answer to op, its an example of a way to turn/transform dry, computerized or "too clean" sounds

no a delay that add more "drum" sounds as if the drummer is moving across snares himself instead of it being so on the nose or planted - such as is an extremely common way echoboy is used

again, youre taking an extreme or only one way of how to do something and assuming thats what i mean or am only offering

“mid/side processing”

could you elaborate on what this means please

the difference between genres of music are important especially considering the processing of which are completely different. I don't want op spending 3 hours googling techno processing and not coming away with what they want